Jedi Archive
Thread: we are only PADAWANS
adetether wrote:
i agree with you entirly because of the state of live play lag timers and everything else but i am talking about 7k energy resist 75% ab resist master sword master tk doc with either power hammer or katana nucklers slicked for critical hit and speed puped, I dotn care what you are { unless you are double mastery with powers as one and can use choke} every day jedi from the cu with substandard or bearly decent weopens have no chance. Either your mind or force is well gone, its been proven time and time again.
Yes every one has a bad day and every one can be beat but we are talking in general not the odd time these melee stackers before cu were hard as nails now they are even harder and with very good heals to boot in a very short space of time i would bet most jedi will not face them.
The worst kind are those who have pvped since day one and no every trick move in the book they are just near on impossible.
Best thing against a melee stacker is root and kite with saber throw...
I agree, he is as hard as nails, but back in the day a duel meant standing toe to toe with a person. Now if my skills don't allow for that type of duel, then i'm not gonna duel that way, i will use my template in every which way i can.
And yes post cu sabers in some cases are not good. But i am wondering if some of this is down to the fact that those with these poor sabers, have not crafted at master level. Also ( I cannot remember now ) does the damage output increase when you get master sabers over that of a dabbler ?
Why? Well there are 2 reasons why:
1. Diminishing Returns.
2. Balance between templates.
You think armor is going to get better? It caps at 10,000 anyway, which is only about 8% more protection than at 6,000 due to diminishing returns.
You think Lightsabers will get faster? We all know what effect speed mods have - zero. As has been said by someone else, with diminsihing returns and working mods, the difference between 50 speed and 100 speed is only 20%.
You think Lightsaber block will improve? It won't because a MLS and Defender 0004 already has 50% block. Any block mods you get, they get too, so a large boost to block would be unbalancing.
Its the same thing for pretty much every combat related skill. Diminishing returns and balance between templates mean that you can probably get at best 5% boost from the FRS.
The new FRS will be about content and not power. I can guarantee it.
You only get accuracy and speed as master plus the extra 10 points the fact of the matter is that most tunes in this game now on perls are high damage really low force cost or high -fc and low damage either way you either do way to little damage or the specials cost way to much force. I have spoken tomany new jedi and many of my old jedi mates and the stats are as follows
old jedi fc == around 9 .. 11
new jedi fc == around 15 .. 40
old jedi max damage near on 700
new jedi max damage anywhere from 500 .. 600
as you can see from these stats that in no way represent the whole community be do sum up alot t of the new vs old jedi.
if u were a jeid equipped with the very best ls and u know how to use ur templateand hooked up with maxed on all skill mods, and u fight the next best profession with his best weapon possibal, he has best armor and can use his template like crazy too...the jedi would most likly win OR BE A very VERY close fight
QFE i dont think anyone could have said this better...
mauvros wrote:
Another carrot being dangled in front of your face. The FRS is now the new thing to look forward to to fix the game.
Dont you see a pattern here?
Back when TKM's were KD/Dizzy beating the piss out of Jedi Pre-CU the promise of the CU was what kept everyone paying for this game.
When someone planted and 800 per tic Mind posion on your Jedi and you died in 3.5 seconds, you were waiting for the CU, and kept paying....
Now the CU is here and we are promised balance... and we keep paying....
Pearls arent dropping in game but they say they are gonna fix it.... and we keep paying............
Jedi are nerfed monthly...... yet we keep paying......................
When the FRS comes out Jedi will be much better off............ and we keep paying until then....
The point here is SOE will always keep that carrot in front of your face to keep you paying..... dont count on the FRS to fix Jedi.
Tidan-Monoko wrote:
OF COURSE WE ARE EQUAL TO OTHER PROFESIONS RIGHT NOW...every jedi in the WHOLE game, every server is only a PADAWAN right now, obvisouly the frs will allow us to be much stronger as we rank up, despite what the titles say, every1 is a padawan right now.....i know its frustrating having to wait for it to come back but once it will im sure the dev team has a lil somthin somthin for us. with soe, u just need alot more patience than what u all have....just enjoy the game and
and honestly we are already a lil bit stronger than any other prefession anyway
SanoSagara wrote:
Tidan-Monoko wrote:
OF COURSE WE ARE EQUAL TO OTHER PROFESIONS RIGHT NOW...every jedi in the WHOLE game, every server is only a PADAWAN right now, obvisouly the frs will allow us to be much stronger as we rank up, despite what the titles say, every1 is a padawan right now.....i know its frustrating having to wait for it to come back but once it will im sure the dev team has a lil somthin somthin for us. with soe, u just need alot more patience than what u all have....just enjoy the game and
and honestly we are already a lil bit stronger than any other prefession anyway
Amen! --This needs a Sticky...
/blush
my `1st stickie woot that would be cool
Message Edited by Laoabal on 10-05-2005 02:21 PM
SonGouki wrote:
JEDI GENERAL INFO:
- The goal of the Combat Upgrade is for all profession templates to be balanced now, both in terms of offensive and defensive capabilities. This includes Jedi and, yes, even Bounty Hunter templates.
- A full-template Jedi Padawan is supposedly balanced to be 1.5 times as powerful as a regular profession combat template.