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Thread: Petition for Cloak

EvilAztec
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:54 am
#14



Hmm, lets see, I have a crappy saber comparatively which means I cannot outdamage a MBH/medic temp as a MLS. I'm not a defender, oh yeah, I took the different trees to be different and more light-jedi like "I am not the Jedi you are looking for." Oh and I got on the terms because I refuse to hang out only killing non-humanoid NPC's.





KammaRocca wrote:

If cloak is really your only defense and you don't have good offense, how did you get on the terminals in the first place?








Message Edited by EvilAztec on 09-17-2005 12:54 PM



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supremejedi52
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:42 am
#15


/sign. Im sick of them nerfing .

Message Edited by supremejedi52 on 09-17-2005 11:43 AM



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iskareot
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:52 am
#16






Traga wrote:

Petition for the DEV's to leave cloak alone, and to stop nerfing it all to heck! Give us a break, nerf this and nerf that.


/sign






See, Im all for cloak at its level right now for paddy's... that is fine. Leave it like it is for them..


As a Knight however I know how the perma overt system works.. I forsee alot and I mean ALOT of issues with it under the FRS.. In fact I see things getting abused at levels NONE of you know due to more then 75% of you have not ever been in the FRS and understand the gameplay and style.


So while cloak is fun and cool.. in the Paddy system, in the FRS I can see a crap load of issues.


(Unless there is a Knight level force "Sence" cloaked Jedi near this is just a problem waiting to happen.


For those that are in the FRS they too know how it would make cloak... pretty much a given of could make the FRS worse then we could ever think of.


So if they leave it alone at Paddy level fine.. change it at Knight level.. sucks, but this could get bad fast.





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antares_Kauri
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:56 am
#17



EvilAztec wrote:

Hmm, lets see, I have a crappy saber comparatively which means I cannot outdamage a MBH/medic temp as a MLS. I'm not a defender, oh yeah, I took the different trees to be different and more light-jedi like "I am not the Jedi you are looking for." Oh and I got on the terms because I refuse to hang out only killing non-humanoid NPC's.



And yet! And yet! Let's look at your sig, shall we? "Jedi Record 44w-2l-6t" So, just like sooooo many other Jedi, you complain and complain and complain and write about how you can't outdamage anyone or anything, and you die sooo many times. Yet you have a win/loss record of 44:2. Typical.

antares



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supremejedi52
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:57 am
#18

How do you know that the new FRS will be like the old? You dont really



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iskareot
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:58 am
#19






antares_Kauri wrote:





EvilAztec wrote:

Hmm, lets see, I have a crappy saber comparatively which means I cannot outdamage a MBH/medic temp as a MLS. I'm not a defender, oh yeah, I took the different trees to be different and more light-jedi like "I am not the Jedi you are looking for." Oh and I got on the terms because I refuse to hang out only killing non-humanoid NPC's.




And yet! And yet! Let's look at your sig, shall we? "Jedi Record 44w-2l-6t" So, just like sooooo many other Jedi, you complain and complain and complain and write about how you can't outdamage anyone or anything, and you die sooo many times. Yet you have a win/loss record of 44:2. Typical.

antares




lets kill them all ant lol...woot







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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
crunchmalla
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:37 pm
#20

Hell yeha, nerf cloak




Mfusion wrote:



Here's a conversation I had with Smuggler correspondant Wes Beldon on the Smuggler forums (in yellow):





Mfusion wrote:





WesBelden wrote:

...there are abilities that will bring you out of Feign Death, such as the Jedi's healing skills Heal States and Total Heal.




Is this a bug or an intended feature?







Intended; as part of the CU, every move, state is supposed to have a counter of some sort.


Riiiiight...except cloak. Even with the nerf. It'sa cheap move folks, and it's being overused. Maybe it isn't a total "I win" button, but it is definitely an "I ain't gonna lose" button. Thanks to lag (or whatever) jedi can cloak during a fight, 1m away from their enemies...and that's the end of the fight. Why waste skill points mastering defender for AI when you can choose toend any battle at any time?


Sure, there are shady ways to deal with cloaked jedi, but if "every move/state is supposed to have a counter of some sort", so should cloak. And it doesn't even look like this nerf includes adding a counter move.











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Qwad
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:39 pm
#21

What are they going to do to it?





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Kiranie
Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:48 pm
#22

hopefully soon



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Apolcalypse
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:17 pm
#23

/sign

Cloak should be left alone and not hit with the nerf forest everytime someone needs a reason to nerf something. What ever happened to the old saying that Jedi are 1.5 times stronger. I think we are 2 times weaker than a durni. If anything we need to be improved with a serious shot of /whoopaz$ to make a difference in the game.



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MDBangs
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:58 pm
#24

If I had a dollar for every petition thread that the devs did not care about I would have more money then Bill Gates.
RustemGT
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:36 pm
#25






MDBangs wrote:
If I had a dollar for every petition thread that the devs did not care about I would have more money then Bill Gates.






agreed but the devs seem to be listening to the FOM whines that someone else has a cool toy and that it must be taken away.


/sign






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mickhel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:45 pm
#26

/sign



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