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Thread: Rumors started by BHs to undermine Jedi...

gladiatory2k
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:22 pm
#14




FlogTheJedi wrote:




JordonUK wrote:
I didn't get a BH till the 8th day.



That means nothing really. Maybe it was luck, maybe not, but I feel like BHs encourage padawans with the promise of "No visibility the first week" just so they can get noobs on the terminals.



I managed to not get hunted until I completed my grind to full template. Last saturday was my attack and I unlocked about a month before CU.



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mero909
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:31 pm
#15




valdimor wrote:
I dont think speeders give vis but baciaicccaiaciaciaciiaaciccaaaca or whatever his name is said they do





Well, I can't cloak when my speeder is close by...so that tells me that it is simply an object that is derived from the same class that NPCs derive from.


So yeah, I'd bet they'd give viz.






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therealrosh
Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:41 pm
#16




Jacella wrote:




FlogTheJedi wrote:

Here's two of my favorites:


1) No visibility in the first week: If you fall for this, and grind everywhere with no regard for visibility, you become easy prey for BHs. Easy to see why the BHs started this diabolical rumor.


2) Speeders give visibility: It's impossible to test, but my guess is BHs started this one so that Jedi would store their speeder. With the speeder stored, the Jedi has less escape options when they see the BH approaching...



What are some more?





Actually, as a BH, I like it when they leave the speeder out, it destroys one escape mode in the first volley. Then all they have is deeds.


STORE YOUR SPEEDER!!!






i like it when bh's destroy my speeder like n00bs, gives me first strike







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fireburt
Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:06 pm
#17
who would listen to a BH for info on jedi stuff? i dont ask architects about chef info...i dont ask TKAs about carbineer...who would do that?
TraceAntilles
Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:10 pm
#18

I was told by a BH that the whole system was a big joke by SOE and that all jedi go on the terminals irregardless of visibility.





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daz007
Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:38 pm
#19

BH started rumors?


ok....






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scoodoobydoo
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:13 pm
#20
1)No visibility in the first week: If you fall for this, and grind everywhere with no regard for visibility, you become easy prey for BHs. Easy to see why the BHs started this diabolical rumor.

2) Speeders give visibility: It's impossible to test, but my guess is BHs started this one so that Jedi would store their speeder. With the speeder stored, the Jedi has less escape options when they see the BH approaching...

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Eskie
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:49 am
#21

mero909 wrote:

valdimor wrote:
I dont think speeders give vis but baciaicccaiaciaciaciiaaciccaaaca or whatever his name is said they do


Well, I can't cloak when my speeder is close by...so that tells me that it is simply an object that is derived from the same class that NPCs derive from.

So yeah, I'd bet they'd give viz.




Actually, the no-cloaking-if-objects-are-within-20m rule is the same for Force Cloak and Rifleman Cover. More than likely the code for the two are shared. The problem seems to be that any objects cause Cloak / Cover to fail, not just NPCs. You cannot Cloak / Cover next to critters, either, and critters dont give visibility at all for sure. Recently group members were added as an exception to that code.
Visibility detection code is not the same as Cloak / Cover close-object checking code as far as I can tell, visibility range is 32m and Cloak / Cover close object detection code is using 20m.



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Eskie
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:52 am
#22

TraceAntilles wrote:

I was told by a BH that the whole system was a big joke by SOE and that all jedi go on the terminals irregardless of visibility.




True story!
However, he didnt tell the whole story - all Jedi end up on the terms because any high-end content either involves killing NPCs or PCs, so if a Jedi wants to do anything at all in game besides selling krayt pearls and shopping, he is bound to end up on the terms.



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n0ahg
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:24 am
#23

Eskie wrote:

TraceAntilles wrote:

I was told by a BH that the whole system was a big joke by SOE and that all jedi go on the terminals irregardless of visibility.




True story!
However, he didnt tell the whole story - all Jedi end up on the terms because any high-end content either involves killing NPCs or PCs, so if a Jedi wants to do anything at all in game besides selling krayt pearls and shopping, he is bound to end up on the terms.



Yeah, this is what annoys me the most when you get BH saying 'well you had to have been showing off to be on the terms, so it's your own fault :-p'
FronioWalker
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:45 am
#24




Thassk wrote:


as far as visibility .. one thing i have noticed rumours or no rumours, is MANY jedi .. aside form the ones who frequent the forums... have no idea how visibility works ...and ive come acorss many who just dont know





You forgot the ones who just don't care




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StepoKedur
Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:46 am
#25
Actually I think the speeder may be true. Having just got cloak last week, I decided to test it out, rode to a quiet area and attempted to cloak next to my swoop. Got a message saying that an 'entity' (or similar message) was too close to me to cloak. After checking, it turned out it was my swoop!


Made a note to myself to park away from where I grind in future, as a safety precaution.


(This was around end of September).



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Thassk
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:15 pm
#26




FlogTheJedi wrote:

Here's two of my favorites:


1) No visibility in the first week: If you fall for this, and grind everywhere with no regard for visibility, you become easy prey for BHs. Easy to see why the BHs started this diabolical rumor.


2) Speeders give visibility: It's impossible to test, but my guess is BHs started this one so that Jedi would store their speeder. With the speeder stored, the Jedi has less escape options when they see the BH approaching...



What are some more?





perhaps .. i for one have never heard these rumours .. and with 0 call time for speeders i dont mind if they keep them out .. in fact i prefer it .. i can blow it up and really cut off chances to escape .. or eject a jedi from his house by destroying his bike which may have been left outside ...


as far as visibility .. one thing i have noticed rumours or no rumours, is MANY jedi .. aside form the ones who frequent the forums... have no idea how visibility works ...and ive come acorss many who just dont know





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