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Thread: DEVS Learn from your pub 22 mistake DON'T PUSH CLOAK NERF LIVE!
FOCKSTA wrote:
cloak should be removed from the game
As a Master Powers I agree with you 100%, there should be no cloak. However sinces we still need balance Powers damage needs to be balanced with other damage profession. With the cloak nerf it is no longer balanced with other Jedi Professions. Cloak is what allowed Powers to survive. I don't even know why they have other professions if they want everyone to be the lame MLS/MDEF. What ever happened to needing to know what you are doing to be good. Everyone who ever comes on these forums who cry for nerfs. I really do pity you. I hope I never take any GAME as seriously as you. I hope that you realize some day that you are not the only people that play this GAME.
The bottom line is that cloak was never inbalanced. EVERYONE had the opprotunity to work it into their template. They CHOSE not to. I know that it does not fit everyones playstyle, but neither does MLS and/or MDEF. I do not come on here and call for nerfs on Innate armor, aura and valor. My friend who is master Def can turn on valor and aura and get up answer the phone, grab a sandwich right in the middle of a BH fight. Is this balance? Do I call for nerf?
Say what you want but all you people (you know who you are) are very selfish people and I hope what you brought around comes right back at you. That will be a glorious day.
LOL if AI got the nerf bat then bring on the Cloak nerf bat. You can single handedly blame all the starport cloaker campers for this nerf. Good job children way to abuse cloak till it gets nerfed.
Cybelia Jedi Knight
Message Edited by Jillzar on 09-18-2005 08:17 AM
emovamalla wrote:
Quoted from Pub 22 Apology:
Dear Star Wars Galaxies Players,
On behalf of the entire LucasArts and SOE SWG team, we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for a recent change we made regarding group experience (XP) rates. With Publish 22, we attempted to fix an unintended game play mechanic that we introduced with the Combat Upgrade earlier this year. Specifically, we wanted to correct a large divergence between the rate at which experience (XP) could be earned in a solo setting versus a group setting. After this change hit live, we were presented with a mountain of feedback describing how this change had a major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game. We want to let you know that we hear you and we value your feedback. You were right: we made a mistake on this one and we reversed out the change because of that feedback. We continue to learn from experience and pledge to improve our process for bringing you timely updates to Star Wars Galaxies.
Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to seeing you in the game!
Sincerely,
Julio Torres
Producer, Star Wars Galaxies
LucasArts
Todd Fiala
Director of Development, Austin Studio
Sony Online Entertainment
Please Devs, lets not rehash this style incident. We can catch thisissue BEFORE it goes live this time. This proposedyet untested cloak nerf as it has been describedWILL cause a mountain of negative feedback and WILL cause a major negative impact onMY enjoyment of the game as well as the enjoyment of ANYONE who has cloak.
If you value the feedback of myself and every other person against this nerf, then I beg of you not to let this cloak nerf go live.
Please listen to your valued customer here:
1. If there is a problem with cloak in GCW bases then implement in a line of code where it says: "Cannot Perform That Action While Under Cover". This is coded already for using mounts.
2. If there is a problem with cloak in looting dungeons then impliment in a line of codewhere it says: "Cannot Perform That Action While Under Cover". This is coded already for using mounts.
3. If there is a problem with cloak in PvP then please place (1) Waaaaaaaaambulance in that persons inventory. Powers has NO ADVANTAGE in Damage, Speed, Mitigation, or Efficiency against any other single profession. Powers is so gimped ATM that this is the LAST THING it needs.The only good thing you gave this otherwise ultra-lame discipline was cloak, please don't kill this poor defenseless skill set.
I know this is falling on deaf ears and that no one with any power will respond. I, and MANY other paying customers, have voiced out our "valued feedback". Please look at it carefully and make the right choice.
On one hand youstand to LOSE valued customers @ $15 a pop, while further unbalancing the combat "upgrade". All this just from a silly nerf that didnt need to happen.
On the other hand you can continue to run a shady MMO of which no one would play if the Star Wars name was not attached to it. You can continue to run me through the mud of day to day boredom while stringing the proverbial carrot (FRS) in front of the donkey (everyone waiting for FRS). If this cloak nerf stays at bay, I'll probablyput in apreorder for CONTENT (that should be free) and continue my 2 SWG subscriptions.
As a parting shot, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO BALANCE JEDI INTO NORMAL PROFESSIONS!!! PLEASE STOP TRYING WITH ALL YOUR RESOURCES TO MAKE THE GAME MORE BALANCED AND PLEASE FOCUS ON MAKING THE GAME FUN. PLEASE DON'T BAN ME FOR USING THE "F" WORD, I KNOW THE WORD FUN IS A MISUNDERSTOOD CONCEPT AND IS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT FROWNED UPON BY THE DEVS.
Now, everyone else, go ahead and tell me how irrelevant I am, how much I suck, tell me that I need to learn how to play, and how imperfect my spelling and grammar is.
Message Edited by emovamalla on 09-18-2005 02:00 AM
i can shorten your post significantly......
i have cloak, i abuse cloak, it is what makes me decent...do not nerf me, i cannot grind again because i am lazy.
Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
lol, the fact that the OP compared this to that makes me laugh really hard. If people quit this game because of this, good riddance.
QFE
quicker we lose the whiners sooner we can have a REAL forum...
no kidding, purge the jedi whiners and nerf cloak
KyiasLightsun wrote:
Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
lol, the fact that the OP compared this to that makes me laugh really hard. If people quit this game because of this, good riddance.
QFE
quicker we lose the whiners sooner we can have a REAL forum...
Message Edited by Kiranie on 09-18-2005 07:37 AM
lol, I love the fact that Jedi think this nerf is cuz too many complained about them whenactually it is going into place because Ranger's are getting the sameabilityand MUCH MUCH MUCH more people will have access to it for PvP use. This has nothing to do with hosing M Powers and everything to do with not allowing Rangers to dominate the battlefield.
Sure there are differences between cloak and Camo, but at Master Ranger, the ability is to move a la Cloak in cities.... this could be very dangerous in a BH/CM's hands (which it will be since the cost of Ranger is being drastically reduced).
Message Edited by RosaShyanne on 09-18-2005 06:39 AM
Kiranie wrote:
no kidding, purge the jedi whiners and nerf cloak
KyiasLightsun wrote:
QFE
Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:
lol, the fact that the OP compared this to that makes me laugh really hard. If people quit this game because of this, good riddance.
quicker we lose the whiners sooner we can have a REAL forum...
Message Edited by Kiranie on 09-18-2005 07:37 AM
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold on there Quickdraw McGraw.
I did NOT compare cloak to XP nerf in pub 22.I highlighted a snippet of the apology they gave from publish 22. That publish hit on a much larger scale than this by far and did not involve actual skills like this proposed cloak nerf.I fear that SOE / LA will NEVER learn from their past mistakes and learn from them.
If SOE / LA meant what they said in the highlighted part of the apology, then I am doing my part in the community by voicing my opinion on what I personally think about cloak. You have your right to voice your opinion too, but obviously you choose to troll around for a while.
The quicker we lose the trolls, the sooner we can have a REAL forum.
PDPoc wrote:
FOCKSTA wrote:
cloak should be removed from the game
As a Master Powers I agree with you 100%, there should be no cloak. However sinces we still need balance Powers damage needs to be balanced with other damage profession. With the cloak nerf it is no longer balanced with other Jedi Professions. Cloak is what allowed Powers to survive. I don't even know why they have other professions if they want everyone to be the lame MLS/MDEF. What ever happened to needing to know what you are doing to be good. Everyone who ever comes on these forums who cry for nerfs. I really do pity you. I hope I never take any GAME as seriously as you. I hope that you realize some day that you are not the only people that play this GAME.
The bottom line is that cloak was never inbalanced. EVERYONE had the opprotunity to work it into their template. They CHOSE not to. I know that it does not fit everyones playstyle, but neither does MLS and/or MDEF. I do not come on here and call for nerfs on Innate armor, aura and valor. My friend who is master Def can turn on valor and aura and get up answer the phone, grab a sandwich right in the middle of a BH fight. Is this balance? Do I call for nerf?
Say what you want but all you people (you know who you are) are very selfish people and I hope what you brought around comes right back at you. That will be a glorious day.
ranged da,age will never be equal to melee damage....powers users are just as capable of picking up mdef or menh as anyone else....how on earth do you rationalize that knowing how to get 20m away, hit a button and have an instant escape mechanism makes you good??? it was never working as intended, thats why its getting fixed.
it was ALWAYS, since introduction abused....and regarding the example above you could go afk all night while being attacked by a bh as a CR1 toon....if you had an unskilled bh attacking you with a broken weapon that only does one damage....which is just as absurd and for the exact same reason....as tbe statement about the phone and sandwhich.
bring it.the sooner the nerfage is complete, the sooner the revamp comes.
