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Thread: MLS/ME/D4040 Is it really viable?
KJFett3 wrote:
Dontblink wrote:
Dontblink wrote:
Yeah CURB means you better be able to Heal. They shouldnt have called it combat upgrade Revamp balance, they should have called it HEAL REVAMP. My temp is MLS/ME/ Healer 4040 and that temp is viable, but sometimes I envy my MLS/MD counter parts.
i went Mls / ME / Healer 3000 / def 0020 so i could be cool and run aura with all my friend
Hmm not bad. I think I could live with 1000 heals vs 1500 per shot if it meant that I could have AURA.. I really dont use force sap and shock that much anyway.I believe at novice defender you get some nice perks to boot.
yeah...0020 defender makes up for the lower heals in my opinion...not only does the extra +250 defense help, but you also get another +10 innate armor for a total of 70 with FA2 up, and also there is the extra melee and ranged defense in the novice box and the powers defenses that when combined with the Enhnacer force defense skills make a power jedi think they are using a DH17 carbine.
For that loss of 500 heal every 6 seconds and a little less force pool, you get:
Force Defense +45
Innate Jedi Armor +10
Jedi State Defense +15
Melee Defense +35
Ranged Defense +35
Force Aura w/ +250 ranged/melee defense
Seems like a good set up, I shall give this a go
Jediknight2k1 wrote:
KJFett3 wrote:
Jediknight2k1 wrote:
paolo_ikro wrote:
I don't come here to ask about templates very often, but I am always interested in what the others of us are choosing. Anyway, recently I have been thinking about templates a lot, and I've tried a lot, mostly during our respec period, and a couple I have ground out since. More recently I have begin thinking that Force Heal, uses a lot of mind and if you have Force Infusion running, it sucks mind pretty quickly too. So here's my dilemma, I want a double mastery, I know I don't need one, but I like the added force pool and the feeling of being a double master, especially a 2.5 Mastery. I love the Enhancer tree, and I wouldn't want to give up MLS either. So that leaves me with the option of using 48 points somewhere else.
There is another thread in the forums where someone has asked about MLS/MD/E4004. Having tried this, I wasn't too keen on it, however one poster suggested MLS/ME/D4040, which I hadn't previously thought of. Ok so I know that it will be hard to live without healer, but currently it is also hard to live without defence, being MLS/ME/H4040 (Force Armor is ok, but not the be all and end all). I find that in long drawn out fights I am using Stasis to slow down the fight, sit down and regen my HAM...cheeky I know but it works. My thoughts are that if Stasis does get nerfed, it may mean that my existing template will be harder to play.
One thing to bear in mind is that currently my Saber is 710 max dmg, SAC 96, FC 14, so that should help in trying to work out if this will work.
So the question is this...could MLS/ME/D4040 actually work? I know one poster has says that his colleague has a lot of success with it, but I am after some more constructive feedback.
Please don't post things like 'No Healer = Dead Jedi' I've heard it before, I am after sensible thoughts here. Any conctructive thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
With the lack of defences you really do need the 1500 force heals for enhancer. I have the same template and Stasis + stims is a useful way of healing. One thing to remember is that at 4040 Defender your still vunerable to MBH and ranged combantants because without the ranged def to back up Force Aura is almost useless.
You will be hit for full damage using force aura vs ranged players. I know that from having 4040 defender which is why I dropped for pure enhancer. Anyone who says you won't be for 1400 with Force Aura is lying
You are incorrect. I am a MLS/ME/H3000/D0020 and I do see a diff between when a BH hits me with Aura on and turned off. It is a noticable difference as well. Force aura does not rely on anything. It gives +250 melee/ranged defense at 0020. That 250 goes on top of what else you have...in my case, with the clothes and tapes...thats about +350 defense when a BH is shooting me. Now that takes teh edge off a hit much better than +100 defense. As long as your defense is higher than their accuracy, you will prevent the damage bonus, and the higher you are over theirs, the closer to min damage your push their weapon. The best BHs struggle to hit 350 so I at least dont allow them to get a bonus, and many are at about 200-250 so I actually push their damage down because of it and also get hit a few less times...combine that with my +25 to saber block with MLS and a ranged BH is in fora hard road.
I have 0020 defender and with aura up, I do not get hit for more than 1K, and with FA up..most of those shots are in the 200-300 range...and that ain't no lie.
I was referring to just useing Force Aura for defence. I know from my own experience that with just 0040 defender I was getting hit for 1400 from MBH/M Carb templates. With Force Armor thats cut down to around 700 damame.
uhhhhh wrote:
I am ME, 0404 sabers, 4000 healer and 4040 defender or something like that. I can beat a MLS in 1 on 1, By using stasis, to regen when stasis wears off slap him a few more times and put back in stasis, Also stasis works good with BH's they cant move and you can tuant them with emotes and leave, makes them way more mad then killing them.