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Thread: FAO:Baciacca Read Please
Bucke-Thead
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:27 pm
#14
oh and... a rifleman can go into cover and then regen his action until he is ready to attack
A jedi cloaks and tries getting up close, there is every chance the Force drain will be a bigger handicap than it is worth
A jedi cloaks and tries getting up close, there is every chance the Force drain will be a bigger handicap than it is worth
KammaRocca
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:18 pm
#15
LucifersBane wrote:
It does if ur target is moving
plus as stated they have a much larger range, with no massive drain on force (depending whats around)
also night time bump
Being under cover doesn't drain action or mind, but it is immediately broken if anything gets within a certain range.
Straker_Atrella
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:42 pm
#16
If cloak is designed as an Alpha Strike ability, then Powers needs to have Alpha Strike like power. Meaning for a true Alpha Strike, then Powers would need to be able to win a fight in say the first 5 seconds. After that the Alpha Strike is over and the mid-battle begins.
So if powers doesn't have the ability to carry out an Alpha Strike, how can cloak be used for such?
So that means that either Powers needs to get increased (or get rid of the can't move zip timers,) so they have more offense, or you allow Cloak to have a more versatile use like it does now.
LucifersBane
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:10 am
#17
KammaRocca wrote:
LucifersBane wrote:
It does if ur target is moving
plus as stated they have a much larger range, with no massive drain on force (depending whats around)
also night time bump
Being under cover doesn't drain action or mind, but it is immediately broken if anything gets within a certain range.
And you have a hude damage bonus over powers
so please stop trying to compare the 2.
Adding a snare to cloak does the opposite of what they intended it todo...because they are retarded.
You can still escape with it you ujust cant alpha strike with it lol.
Bump
Bacc you gonna respond ?
i noticed you werent busy enough to respond in a pointless thread about the lava crystal...get your priorities in order.
thelar
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:14 am
#18
I support the cloak nerf and the force run nerf, but, the AI thing is just retarded. They havent made a pvp nerf of it here, they are nerfing its pve usefulness. What the hell is the point in doing that? Tanking DJM's doesnt hurt anyone. God the devs just dont make any sence.
sli-aib
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:15 am
#19
Yes Baciacca I hope you are passing on the majoritys feelings on this.
repto
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:16 am
#20
i am gonna give this a bump aswell mostly because they really want jedi to be BH food but i wont be that from now on i will leave the fight lol if i can
LucifersBane
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:19 am
#21
thelar wrote:
I support the cloak nerf and the force run nerf, but, the AI thing is just retarded. They havent made a pvp nerf of it here, they are nerfing its pve usefulness. What the hell is the point in doing that? Tanking DJM's doesnt hurt anyone. God the devs just dont make any sence.
I see...im guessing you might well be a defender lol
So you think someone should be able to be kept perma snared now by a cm ?
You think that despite the devs saying cloak is meant to be sued as an alpha strike it cant be because of the snare ?
You sir are a fool
EmpressWSA
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:29 am
#22
I think this move is an escape move, there is no way in can be used for alpha strike outside of pvp. I suggest they remove the snare, and make it so cloack costs 300 force or so to make you invisible for 10 min. While under cloack you cannot heal, or perform any action. Doing any skills will break the cloak. That way it can still be used for escaping or alpha strike, but the time limit is there to prevent someone from hiding forever.
As far as Baciacca...give him a break, Im sure he is tearing up the beta forums trying to find you answers. I know I am.
LucifersBane
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:33 am
#23
EmpressWSA wrote:I think this move is an escape move, there is no way in can be used for alpha strike outside of pvp. I suggest they remove the snare, and make it so cloack costs 300 force or so to make you invisible for 10 min. While under cloack you cannot heal, or perform any action. Doing any skills will break the cloak. That way it can still be used for escaping or alpha strike, but the time limit is there to prevent someone from hiding forever.As far as Baciacca...give him a break, Im sure he is tearing up the beta forums trying to find you answers. I know I am.
To start with the devs have stated they dont want it tobe used as an escape ability. The saying that then adding a snare to it fubars the alpha strike.
The other thing is make it so you cant use abilities on anyone but yourself.
As for bac i wont give him a break, go look at his recent posts...hes sitting on his arse waiting till betas over before doing anything....
that is retarded.
tamer_bourne
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:13 am
#25
The only bad change is the one for defender. Cloak needs a snare, and snare is a special that has to work on everyone, not only non jedi, its supposed to do what it says. Just remember jedi can have both snare and root.
KRAKEN666
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:16 am
#26
lol, and what is our alpha strike anyway? I am mls and i dont have one.