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Thread: The Official reason Bounty Hunter TEF's where removed
pussycat wrote:
No, it had to do with all the griefers among the BH population, the ones who did it just to grief, not to complete a mission.
And being able to hold a LS without some the annoyance of pesky BHs is going to be absolutely wonderful, look forward to it.
You had a choice to be on the terminals, or not, and to be a Jedi COMBAT character, or not. Those of us that enjoyed the high end content of one on one bounties have had that stripped away by people like you.
Of course, you got your way and the result is I no longer have that choice.
You and your self righteous kind have ruined one of the truly unique experiences in any game.
For the record, I was a good fighter, and the BH that hunted me were also. I am going to miss logging in and immediately checking my food, my radar, and my saber to make sure I was ready to defend myself. I paid attention every moment I was in game. I absolutely loved being hunted.
Shame on you for thinking you are better than me and those I fought.
Liani wrote:
pussycat wrote:
No, it had to do with all the griefers among the BH population, the ones who did it just to grief, not to complete a mission.
And being able to hold a LS without some the annoyance of pesky BHs is going to be absolutely wonderful, look forward to it.
You had a choice to be on the terminals, or not, and to be a Jedi COMBAT character, or not. Those of us that enjoyed the high end content of one on one bounties have had that stripped away by people like you.
Of course, you got your way and the result is I no longer have that choice.
You and your self righteous kind have ruined one of the truly unique experiences in any game.
For the record, I was a good fighter, and the BH that hunted me were also. I am going to miss logging in and immediately checking my food, my radar, and my saber to make sure I was ready to defend myself. I paid attention every moment I was in game. I absolutely loved being hunted.
Shame on you for thinking you are better than me and those I fought.
Don't be patronizing, you know perfectly well that there's no way to do anything in the game (but take critter missions) without getting visibility, and even then you have to watch out for NPCs that spawn on top of you. As far as you are concerned, the choices should only have been A) FORCED PVP or B) DO NOTHING IN THE GAME BUT KILL CRITTERS ALL DAY LONG.
That's BS, people shouldn't be forced into pvp if they want to enjoy the game content.
I am not being self-righteous here, it really came down to a very simple thing: pvp'ers respecting the wishes of those who didn't want to pvp. Since you were unable to respect our wishes, we have arrived at the current situation, where all forced pvp has been removed. You guys have only yourselves to blame.
I have never said that I or anybody else who doesn't like pvp is better than anybody else, shame on you for making stuff up. It is actually the powergamers, uberel337s, and prepub9 Jedi that have been the elitist ones, always looking down on everybody else. You are the ones who should be ashamed.
You obviously have no idea what this is about.
Player bounties were completely different experiences than being SF.
Those of us who enjoyed them know what I am talking about.
The fact is too many clueless people unlocked Jedi and ignored the clearly stated facts about this profession. Of course, they came here and screamed when their naive world was interupted by a BH doing exactly what they were trained to do.
They ruined this experience for me and many otherswith completely selfish intentions.
And my comments were not directed at MsNil...you would do well to read more carefully.
Liani wrote:You obviously have no idea what this is about.
Player bounties were completely different experiences than being SF.
Those of us who enjoyed them know what I am talking about.
The fact is too many clueless people unlocked Jedi and ignored the clearly stated facts about this profession. Of course, they came here and screamed when their naive world was interupted by a BH doing exactly what they were trained to do.
They ruined this experience for me and many others with completely selfish intentions.
And my comments were not directed at MsNil...you would do well to read more carefully.
No, you are the one who is completely clueless.. player bounties and being SF both involve PVP. Both make certain players attackable by others. One tends to be one-on-one and the other one tends to be in groups - but there can be exceptions.
There is nothing clueless about wanting to be a Jedi for role-playing reasons, especially since this is (prepare yourself for a shock) a ROLE-PLAYING GAME.
It was the pvp'ers intent on imposing themselves unto everybody else that ruined the game for the greater number of people, and that is precisely why forced PVP is history. All you ever cared about was your own gameplay, you never cared that others didn't want to be a part of it.
pussycat wrote:
Don't be patronizing, you know perfectly well that there's no way to do anything in the game (but take critter missions) without getting visibility, and even then you have to watch out for NPCs that spawn on top of you. As far as you are concerned, the choices should only have been A) FORCED PVP or B) DO NOTHING IN THE GAME BUT KILL CRITTERS ALL DAY LONG.
That's BS, people shouldn't be forced into pvp if they want to enjoy the game content.
I am not being self-righteous here, it really came down to a very simple thing: pvp'ers respecting the wishes of those who didn't want to pvp. Since you were unable to respect our wishes, we have arrived at the current situation, where all forced pvp has been removed. You guys have only yourselves to blame.
I have never said that I or anybody else who doesn't like pvp is better than anybody
else, shame on you for making stuff up. It is actually the powergamers, uberel337s, and prepub9 Jedi that have been the elitist ones, always looking down on everybody else. You are the ones who should be ashamed.
I am not a guy chica....I am as female as you are.
And you do think you are better than me and those who liked player bounties. Your attitude reaks of it.
The one thing I will carry away from this experience is that while you huddled in fear in your house with your pretend lightsaber gripped in your hand, I walked calmly throughout the galaxy and reveled in my ability to use the skills I learned.
I know what it is to face a worthy adversary in a virtual game of death, and salute his corpse or send a /good fight from the cloner.
You will never taste what that feels like, and whats more you'll never know how rich an experience it was.
Good night sister Jedi. May the force be with you.
Liani wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Don't be patronizing, you know perfectly well that there's no way to do anything in the game (but take critter missions) without getting visibility, and even then you have to watch out for NPCs that spawn on top of you. As far as you are concerned, the choices should only have been A) FORCED PVP or B) DO NOTHING IN THE GAME BUT KILL CRITTERS ALL DAY LONG.
That's BS, people shouldn't be forced into pvp if they want to enjoy the game content.
I am not being self-righteous here, it really came down to a very simple thing: pvp'ers respecting the wishes of those who didn't want to pvp. Since you were unable to respect our wishes, we have arrived at the current situation, where all forced pvp has been removed. You guys have only yourselves to blame.I have never said that I or anybody else who doesn't like pvp is better than anybody
else, shame on you for making stuff up. It is actually the powergamers, uberel337s, and prepub9 Jedi that have been the elitist ones, always looking down on everybody else. You are the ones who should be ashamed.
I am not a guy chica....I am as female as you are.And you do think you are better than me and those who liked player bounties. Your attitude reaks of it.
The one thing I will carry away from this experience is that while you huddled in fear in your house with your pretend lightsaber gripped in your hand, I walked calmly throughout the galaxy and reveled in my ability to use the skills I learned.
I know what it is to face a worthy adversary in a virtual game of death, and salute his corpse or send a /good fight from the cloner.
You will never taste what that feels like, and whats more you'll never know how rich an experience it was.
Good night sister Jedi. May the force be with you.
No, I actually think the world of many of my fellow Jedi who enjoyed killing the BH's who came for them, they had fun, so good for them.
I have never once "huddled in fear" in my house, and my lightsaber is as real as that of any other Jedi in the game. I, too, used my skills to send quite a few BH's to the cloners -- I would have preferred not to, but they left me no choice.
I've sampled pvp enough to know that it doesn't interest me, I don't enjoy it, I see no reason for it, and God help me even if I was the most "Uber" player in the game, I still wouldn't like it one bit. If it floats your boat, great, just don't insist on imposing it on those who don't want it.
MsNiL wrote:
From Marksman Correspondant, about the questions that where replied by the devs in Austin during betatesting the NGE:
"The reason they gave for the PC bounties were removed is that it promoted a bitter bitter rivalry between BHs and Jedi. I never was a Jedi, but having run BH missions I was upset to no end when I track somebody and find...a generic small house and tells respond with /afk message. Also they want the focus to be on the GCW and having parts of you population angry and upset they can't kill each other because the other is an exploiting **edit** doesn't really build a gameworld. So yes some people enjoyed that, but howmany people avoided teh BH/Jedi forums because of that."
So basicly the BH vs Jedi TEF where becouse Bounty Hunters and Jedi whined too much about killing eachother, and SoEwanted toGCW as the endgame instead of focusing on just 2 professions.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-04-2005 06:26 PM
Yay!
Actually msnil, it was because of your carebear kind of PvE BS is what lead to the loss of player bounties, now that you've done that you and your pve groupies can loot in peace and all be 99.9% clone population of the game since jedi is a starter proff now, aren't you proud?! no risk ? now you and everyone can hold a LS without any BH Excitement or surprises.
Instead of nerfing our profession i.e BH why don't you purpose ideas such as when becomming a jedi you had a choice to be on the terminals or not...
Message Edited by battledroid01 on 11-05-2005 02:51 AM