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Thread: OK, you want balance? Let's talk about balance.

khalis
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:36 am
#14

Strider who are you kidding.... if you with that template haven't found a BH that you couldn't kill in 8-30 sec then either 1) the BH on your server are total panzies or 2) you have been extremely lucky and have never faced a BH worth his/her salt.

Now don't get me wrong... your temp is one of the best out there, in fact I used that same temp for the last couple months, but I have had a couple fights that lasted nearly an hour and one that lasted a bit more. Most the BH I run accross aren't that good, but there are always those few that are on top of their game.... those are the guys you have to look out for.



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Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:44 am
#15

most BH I can kill in 4-5 swings, the only person I have faught that has been a long duel is mary-kate's old temp master swordsman/ with some pike and doc. and even then it was just about running here mind down. I liked it better when more that one BH could pull your mission at a time.



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Aikes
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:47 am
#16

Why bother, just time to go to something with action and thats better. Im a Star Wars fan too, but this is getting rediculas.


Try this:

Roma Victor


whitethunder
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:47 am
#17






Aglardae wrote:


Alright, what about balancing the BH towards the Jedi for a change:


- Maximum weapon range of all BH usable weapons to 32m (like our powers). BH can't equip range cybers.

- Give BHs a power bar that is depleted each time a BH shoots a gun (like when we use our lightsabers).

-Adjust maximum base dps of any BH usable weapon to the maximum base damage of our lightsabers. No power up on all BH usable weapons (like our sabers)

- Adjust maximum defense armor factor of a BH wearable armorto a value equal to a maximum master defender armor. NO slice and no powerup allowed on BH armors. Well if you want to armor break a jedi you can take brawler or TK skills (just like us you have to make choices).

- Give CMs a power bar that depletes each time they use a CM ability (just like our powers).

- BHs don't need a force run skill cos they arent chickens and they are bad and they never flee.

- etc etc etc .....



You BHs cry for balance? Well now THIS is balance. Time to nerf you I guess.


And before you dear BH kids assume anything : No I was never hunted by any BH and no I didn't lose XPS to any BH.


Aglardae

Message Edited by Aglardae on 09-24-2005 03:10 AM




I think if you had ANY amount of skill you would be able to beat a BH no issues with a MDEF/MLS temp. Who cares if your saber hit for less damage, this means your fights just last longer. Go cry that you can't beat one in 5 minutes or less and stop whining !!
Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:49 am
#18






Aglardae wrote:


Yep, thats the kind of template devs want to see a lot.


I was close to master powers when I stoped my grinding (I am waiting for the devs to know where they are heading to before resuming). As power users there is no way we can't kill BH as you do. Since our mean of escape is being nerfed,it'sgonna be hard to flee at all considering our opponent can guess where we are when cloaked and he can still target us. Devs promised to fix it with cloaknerf, but they also promised balance with CU among many promises. So I wait ...


Aglardae








The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.





Stridder O'Shea - Dark jedi Knight NoS
(gggggggggggggxnnntDark Jedi Knighttnnnxggggggggggggg)


supporter of a preCU server, without any patchs or fixs.

HISTORY OF THE JEDI


whitethunder
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:57 am
#19






Srider_Killarney wrote:






Aglardae wrote:


Yep, thats the kind of template devs want to see a lot.


I was close to master powers when I stoped my grinding (I am waiting for the devs to know where they are heading to before resuming). As power users there is no way we can't kill BH as you do. Since our mean of escape is being nerfed,it'sgonna be hard to flee at all considering our opponent can guess where we are when cloaked and he can still target us. Devs promised to fix it with cloaknerf, but they also promised balance with CU among many promises. So I wait ...


Aglardae








The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.







you are gonna get this thread locked like your brilliant post about this a few minutes ago...
Aglardae
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:59 am
#20


>> I think if you had ANY amount of skill you would be able to beat a BH no issues with a MDEF/MLS temp. Who cares if your saber hit for less damage, this means your fights just last longer. Go cry that you can't beat one in 5 minutes or less and stop whining !!


My problem, whitethunder, Is I don't want to be a MLS nor a MDEF but a master powers. And if the game was as balanced as devs promised,I should be able to do as well with my powers.


Aglardae

Angamarth
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:59 am
#21






Srider_Killarney wrote:





The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.








I wonder if you even played before the CU...

pre-CU, you couldn't do jack squat without getting a doc buff first.

pre-CU, mind pool was the be all end all. If you couldn't hit it, you lost.

pre-CU, armor piercing professions had a major advantage over the others, because the speed cap wasn't different. The only pistoleers/carbiners/pikemen out there were masochists.

pre-CU, everything conned red and nothing was dangerous at all.

pre-CU, smuggler was nearly useless from a combat standpoint, especially after the feign death nerf.

pre-CU, defense stacking was seriously out of balance.

pre-CU, everyone was walking around in 90% composite. There was never a reason to ever wear any other type of armor, including the faction armors.


Nothing was broken?







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Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:00 am
#22






whitethunder wrote:





Srider_Killarney wrote:






Aglardae wrote:


Yep, thats the kind of template devs want to see a lot.


I was close to master powers when I stoped my grinding (I am waiting for the devs to know where they are heading to before resuming). As power users there is no way we can't kill BH as you do. Since our mean of escape is being nerfed,it'sgonna be hard to flee at all considering our opponent can guess where we are when cloaked and he can still target us. Devs promised to fix it with cloaknerf, but they also promised balance with CU among many promises. So I wait ...


Aglardae








The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.







you are gonna get this thread locked like your brilliant post about this a few minutes ago...





yes, oppressed we are.



Stridder O'Shea - Dark jedi Knight NoS
(gggggggggggggxnnntDark Jedi Knighttnnnxggggggggggggg)


supporter of a preCU server, without any patchs or fixs.

HISTORY OF THE JEDI


whitethunder
Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:01 am
#23






Aglardae wrote:


>> I think if you had ANY amount of skill you would be able to beat a BH no issues with a MDEF/MLS temp. Who cares if your saber hit for less damage, this means your fights just last longer. Go cry that you can't beat one in 5 minutes or less and stop whining !!


My problem, whitethunder, Is I don't want to be a MLS nor a MDEF but a master powers. And if the game was as balanced as devs promised,I should be able to do as well with my powers.


Aglardae






Im going a jedi with MP on another server, and you know what, for fun ONLY.
Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:06 am
#24






Angamarth wrote:





Srider_Killarney wrote:





The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.








I wonder if you even played before the CU...

pre-CU, you couldn't do jack squat without getting a doc buff first.

pre-CU, mind pool was the be all end all. If you couldn't hit it, you lost.

pre-CU, armor piercing professions had a major advantage over the others, because the speed cap wasn't different. The only pistoleers/carbiners/pikemen out there were masochists.

pre-CU, everything conned red and nothing was dangerous at all.

pre-CU, smuggler was nearly useless from a combat standpoint, especially after the feign death nerf.

pre-CU, defense stacking was seriously out of balance.

pre-CU, everyone was walking around in 90% composite. There was never a reason to ever wear any other type of armor, including the faction armors.


Nothing was broken?









those are very small things, you want to make a list of the problems with the CU? lol don't get me started I don't have that kinda time. all I am saying is the preCU was worlds more fun to play.



Stridder O'Shea - Dark jedi Knight NoS
(gggggggggggggxnnntDark Jedi Knighttnnnxggggggggggggg)


supporter of a preCU server, without any patchs or fixs.

HISTORY OF THE JEDI


Angamarth
Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:12 am
#25






Srider_Killarney wrote:





Angamarth wrote:





Srider_Killarney wrote:





The CU was a book with a title of balance and upgrade and the pages of lies and deceit, in them you will find a cheeper game that was intended to yield them more profit.


Nothing is balance nothing is working, nothing is better, nothing is more fun that it was, no one is more upset then I, and so should you all.








I wonder if you even played before the CU...

pre-CU, you couldn't do jack squat without getting a doc buff first.

pre-CU, mind pool was the be all end all. If you couldn't hit it, you lost.

pre-CU, armor piercing professions had a major advantage over the others, because the speed cap wasn't different. The only pistoleers/carbiners/pikemen out there were masochists.

pre-CU, everything conned red and nothing was dangerous at all.

pre-CU, smuggler was nearly useless from a combat standpoint, especially after the feign death nerf.

pre-CU, defense stacking was seriously out of balance.

pre-CU, everyone was walking around in 90% composite. There was never a reason to ever wear any other type of armor, including the faction armors.


Nothing was broken?









those are very small things, you want to make a list of the problems with the CU? lol don't get me started I don't have that kinda time. all I am saying is the preCU was worlds more fun to play.





Small things? The majority of professions were next to useless. PvE you needed armor piercing, PvP you needed mind hits. Those were both in the same professions. Try to do either of those without standing in line for 30 min to get a doc buff, dead meat, how is that a small thing?


Let me guess, they were small things because they didn't affect you, you being a master swords/master doc. So all this 'It was better pre-CU' talk is just you whining because you're not uber compared to everyone else anymore.



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Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:19 am
#26

I was a jedi and before that I was a swordsman rifleman, before that I was a rifleman pikeman. On my other toon I was a fencer 4000 doc, 0004 CM, that one was a blast. They were all so very fun, oh and a had a toon that was a dancer/ doc I made some really kool janta buffs, they were great. Now I have one account, don't need the other 2 anymore. I miss everything about the preCU, if you didn't know how to play it I'm truly sorry you would have had alot of fun.



Stridder O'Shea - Dark jedi Knight NoS
(gggggggggggggxnnntDark Jedi Knighttnnnxggggggggggggg)


supporter of a preCU server, without any patchs or fixs.

HISTORY OF THE JEDI


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