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Thread: Maybe beginning of an end for me...

Phaelyn
Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:30 am
#14






hamhamthe3rd wrote:





darlokes wrote:





MsNiL wrote:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Corbantis&message.id=427398


My best friend in the game, Sissor,is threatening to leave due to the seemingly plannedbreakdown of both of our Main characters in pub 24 (and each publishes prior to that, including removal of decent pearls in pub 15), the unfinished and superpowered SL combos, thenewly discovered way for BH's to gank a single targetetc.

Instead of having fun with the great new expansion, we stay offline due to 1-shotting/permasnaring BH's camping the mining station. People who focus on ruining other players experience with the new planet, not interested inexperiencing it on their own.


If she leaves, I leave. If I leave, at least two more will leave the game and our guild Burning Passion are likely to dissolve causing a few more to leave.

I do not want to leave, and I can take alot of pain, but I cannot imagine playing SWG without my friends that I haveplayed with since I started to play the game andwith whom I have done all content together with.






thats why i hate bh i dont understand how people could log on with the sole intent of destroting someone else's expierence "you dont like it stay of the terms!" yeah right what a crock thats impossible. Stayin off the terms means not playing at all!


yeah i hate SOE right now too it will be sad to see you go all the guides and ideas you have written that were never taken into consideration by the devs


but if you do go i wont be angry i think about it too i havnet played for a few weeks now all i do is log on wander around my house and log off again








whats the worst a bh can do to you? kill you? oh wow just clone and get over it. i know no one likes losing, and dying is losing but its not something to stress over.


the only bad thing about the bh/jedi tango is the ppl who take it too seriously or personal.








The serious problem is the bottleneck created specifically on Mustafar. We pay $30 for new content - and thanks to the design, it's nigh impossible to travel to & from Mustafar because now everyone KNOWS where the ONLY cloner and the ONLY Spaceport are. So - If you have Vis and travel there - high probability that you won't be able to leave for an extended period due to camped exit/entrance points. Sure, you'll see a lot of Mustafar.. But how do you get back home? Die on a quest? Good luck getting BACK to try again, as the exit point is camped.



We have snares to slow us to a crawl, quests guaranteed to give massive Vis, new loot weapons with a high minimum damage specifically for BH, and only one place to clone or leave. It's a Dev created shooting gallery.



And people say this was a JEDI CENTRIC expansion? Closer to BH Centric, as it has given BH many, many benefits.

Message Edited by Phaelyn on 10-26-2005 03:31 AM



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AtonuTragona
Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:40 am
#15


I'm down to my last couple of friends as well. I used to have so many and then SOE chased them all away. Every now and then someone will come back, only to realize that the game is worse than ever.



The only survival mechanism I see is to just forget that you ever had a Jedi character, that Golden Age is over and is never to return. I'm still struggling with that idea, and as i look at the rest of the game, I see nothing but a broken piece of garbage.



Message Edited by AtonuTragona on 10-26-2005 06:40 AM

WinkerPeeper
Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:41 am
#16






MsNiL wrote:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Corbantis&message.id=427398


My best friend in the game, Sissor,is threatening to leave due to the seemingly plannedbreakdown of both of our Main characters in pub 24 (and each publishes prior to that, including removal of decent pearls in pub 15), the unfinished and superpowered SL combos, thenewly discovered way for BH's to gank a single targetetc.

Instead of having fun with the great new expansion, we stay offline due to 1-shotting/permasnaring BH's camping the mining station. People who focus on ruining other players experience with the new planet, not interested inexperiencing it on their own.


If she leaves, I leave. If I leave, at least two more will leave the game and our guild Burning Passion are likely to dissolve causing a few more to leave.

I do not want to leave, and I can take alot of pain, but I cannot imagine playing SWG without my friends that I haveplayed with since I started to play the game andwith whom I have done all content together with.






Before you go, could you print up a list of all the nerfs to Jedi since the CU with their associated publish?




Formerly Redyrd, MLS/MDEF/Heal 4XX4. Now L60 Shadowpriest.
mark2442
Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:45 am
#17

I can't blame you, I've just cancelled my account


Mark





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JarvisW
Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:59 am
#18






hamhamthe3rd wrote:





darlokes wrote:


whats the worst a bh can do to you? kill you? oh wow just clone and get over it. i know no one likes losing, and dying is losing but its not something to stress over.

the only bad thing about the bh/jedi tango is the ppl who take it too seriously or personal.







Well my main problem, maybe hers too, is I can't enjoy the content on the new planet because I can't kill anything with a standard rifle, and if I use force skills then I'll be hunted. I dont know about you, but in this GAME,I pay just as much as anyone else to ENJOY the content of the game! NOT to BE content for someone else!


I dont mind fighting a BH at all. My problem is trying to do a quest with friends and guildys and having to die, or at least take time out of tanking for them to defend myself.


I understand the BH/Jedi thing to keep some jedi control, but if you play like me... no powers running in citys, no saber showing, etc whileI travel around. in otherwords, not showin off, then you shouldnt be punished for playing the game in places that most wont see. In otherwords, I agree with MsNil NO NPC VIS outside of citys!


If this were to happen, then people could enjoy the game, explore the areas, do some quests, WITHOUT having to worry about dying from a BH while helping their guild take down the Gorax, or the NS queen, or anything else that they can find you at for doing nothing other than PLAYING the GAME!


If they would make it so jedi that use powers in citys could get Vis, then ONLY the jedi that people hate, (the ones that show off and duel constantly in Theed and Cnet, etc would be hunted) then maybe the jedi like me could stay hidden, and never known to be one, untill you actually grouped with me and we defeated something significant.


As of now, I cant even spend more than 20 mins on a planet, just because I happened to kill a few 'bad people' that had to be dealt with so my guildy could advance.


MsNil, I'm close to that last straw too.





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JarvisW
Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:02 am
#19






WinkerPeeper wrote:



Before you go, could you print up a list of all the nerfs to Jedi since the CU with their associated publish?






Lol too many to list really.


Saber speed.


Heal nerfs.


Pearl/ crystal drops.


Giving the BHs the only outlet for Jedi CAs


Def not working as advertised


Giving the BHs an "I Win' button (SL and before CM)


Action/mind/ force costs


ETC.ETC.ETC.





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dino666
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:02 am
#20

Its a verry poor game design that lets one class get all the best sell loot, with the best money making missions, with an way to attack others anywhere but their homes at any time, gives them the most damaging weapons per secound, with the ability to keep group buffs, and ruin anyones ability to play a game.


How can a jedi play the new content and not get on the terminals ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


4AM last night their were 3 groups of 8 camping one drop.


Give jedi a permant non pvp option, no wait bounty hunters have that all ready and we caint nerf them lol



Dy-nod
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:19 am
#21

I feel exactly the same way and add on top I cannot wear the Master robes due to SOE cruelity.



Dy





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xphil3
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:42 am
#22



JarvisW wrote:

I agree with MsNil NO NPC VIS outside of citys!



Agree. They could also make it so any npc that spots you in the city calls any/all guards and calls in a garrison of stormies within a couple minutes of sighting.
Kal_Choedan
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:46 am
#23

do what i do. If you doing something go prone when attacked by a bh , clone and carry on.



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WinkerPeeper
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:49 am
#24






Kal_Choedan wrote:
do what i do. If you doing something go prone when attacked by a bh , clone and carry on.




You wouldn't have to if they fixed pearl drops, restored the FRS, unnerfed AI, unnerfed Saber Throw, unnerfed healing, unnerfed Cloak, fixed state defences etc etc...




Formerly Redyrd, MLS/MDEF/Heal 4XX4. Now L60 Shadowpriest.
Kresh_Azzo
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:50 am
#25

MsNil I would miss you very much. On the Doctor boards you are indispensible. Good luck, and I hope they fix this heap soon. One shots are not fun, being camped is no fun, and being constantly nerfed = a constastant morale poke.



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trajen2
Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:52 am
#26






Phaelyn wrote:






hamhamthe3rd wrote:





darlokes wrote:





MsNiL wrote:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Corbantis&message.id=427398


My best friend in the game, Sissor,is threatening to leave due to the seemingly plannedbreakdown of both of our Main characters in pub 24 (and each publishes prior to that, including removal of decent pearls in pub 15), the unfinished and superpowered SL combos, thenewly discovered way for BH's to gank a single targetetc.

Instead of having fun with the great new expansion, we stay offline due to 1-shotting/permasnaring BH's camping the mining station. People who focus on ruining other players experience with the new planet, not interested inexperiencing it on their own.


If she leaves, I leave. If I leave, at least two more will leave the game and our guild Burning Passion are likely to dissolve causing a few more to leave.

I do not want to leave, and I can take alot of pain, but I cannot imagine playing SWG without my friends that I haveplayed with since I started to play the game andwith whom I have done all content together with.






thats why i hate bh i dont understand how people could log on with the sole intent of destroting someone else's expierence "you dont like it stay of the terms!" yeah right what a crock thats impossible. Stayin off the terms means not playing at all!


yeah i hate SOE right now too it will be sad to see you go all the guides and ideas you have written that were never taken into consideration by the devs


but if you do go i wont be angry i think about it too i havnet played for a few weeks now all i do is log on wander around my house and log off again








whats the worst a bh can do to you? kill you? oh wow just clone and get over it. i know no one likes losing, and dying is losing but its not something to stress over.


the only bad thing about the bh/jedi tango is the ppl who take it too seriously or personal.








The serious problem is the bottleneck created specifically on Mustafar. We pay $30 for new content - and thanks to the design, it's nigh impossible to travel to & from Mustafar because now everyone KNOWS where the ONLY cloner and the ONLY Spaceport are. So - If you have Vis and travel there - high probability that you won't be able to leave for an extended period due to camped exit/entrance points. Sure, you'll see a lot of Mustafar.. But how do you get back home? Die on a quest? Good luck getting BACK to try again, as the exit point is camped.



We have snares to slow us to a crawl, quests guaranteed to give massive Vis, new loot weapons with a high minimum damage specifically for BH, and only one place to clone or leave. It's a Dev created shooting gallery.



And people say this was a JEDI CENTRIC expansion? Closer to BH Centric, as it has given BH many, many benefits.


Message Edited by Phaelyn on 10-26-2005 03:31 AM




This is an issue that sadly reared its ugly head during the ealry-access period . . .


Planet is laggy as heII, exit/entry point is 1-5 FPS for many (I fell into the void as soon i entered the complex and had to quick log...what was the point of beta?)


BHs swarm for their uber loot and grief...I left after one mission on the planet . . .






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