Jedi Archive

Thread: Please Explain: Why Is My Damage Now Below My LS Minimum?

KeeferKman
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:11 am
#14






Boatsheets wrote:





vnicula wrote:
get some flawless/premiums, your saber damage sucks.






Shut up. Idiot.




QFE...moron





No Gaming Enjoyment
Lorelai_Seabreeze
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:15 am
#15



Bugboy321 wrote:
I thought I had read that comparing the GHz on AMD and Intel CPU's wasn't a true reflection of their respective processing power.





AMD is slower in GHz so the 3400 is actually more like 2.8
they use the number 3400 to say thats what it compares to in Intel




Lorelai Seabreeze------Annalize Seabreeze
Jedi MLS Mdef healer 3xxx enhance xxx2
Tri Master Ent Dancer Musician


gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWXggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)
KeeferKman
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:18 am
#16







Lorelai_Seabreeze wrote:





Bugboy321 wrote:

I thought I had read that comparing the GHz on AMD and Intel CPU's wasn't a true reflection of their respective processing power.







AMD is slower in GHz so the 3400 is actually more like 2.8
they use the number 3400 to say thats what it compares to in Intel





AMD 3200 operates at 2150 MHZ, but has a larger bus for processing data on the CPU..it is the equivalent or better than a Pentium 3.2*


the 3200 is a marketing tool since many folks think that MHZ is what determines the processing speed, when in fact is only a part of equation, bus size is just as relevant.


* The reason is "or better" is because by operating at a lower MHZ the CPU runs cooler and therefore does not overheat. Heat slows processing speed.

Message Edited by KeeferKman on 09-01-2005 02:20 PM





No Gaming Enjoyment
Bugboy321
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:21 am
#17



Does that mean they run cooler than whatAMD's were notorious for? I had an AMD chip that gave me fits years ago so I've stayed away from them since then.This Intel chip I have is hot as a furnace, the stock fan sounded like an airplane taking off. Had to get a different fan to save my hearing lol.


EDIT: Oops, my message posted before Ithe lastmessage. This is getting off topic, though, I think I've gotten my question answered, thank you all for your help!

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 09-01-2005 12:25 PM



IGN Ahazi:
_____________________________________________________
Norjykk, Mayor of Numanjii (Jedi Chump/Elder Creature Handler)
Norjy, Armor Hanger (Disabled Commando)
Norj, Oxymoron (Null Trader)

NGE Money Quote: "We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves." - Nancy MacIntyre, SWG Senior Director, LucasArts


Lorelai_Seabreeze
Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:24 am
#18

The new AMD 64 changed how they made the chips.They run alot cooler.
old chips were layered this way =
new chips layered this way II
supposedly allows heat to escape better




Lorelai Seabreeze------Annalize Seabreeze
Jedi MLS Mdef healer 3xxx enhance xxx2
Tri Master Ent Dancer Musician


gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWXggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)
Meebiwan
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:05 am
#19

This maybe stupid, but did you have Force Run switched on, as this reduces the amount of damage done.


Meebiwan



Meebiwan - (Elder Jedi) - MLS, Defender 4344, Enh4002, Heal4000

Meeb'wan - (Master Trader) Vendor on Corellia @ -1995, -1644
Meebifree - (Master Medic)
Meebitoo - (Master Bounty Hunter)

There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no death, there is the Force.
taco_fox
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:30 am
#20

Heat has nothing to do with how Athlon 64s perform faster than Pentium 4s. It has to do with the fact that the A64 does more instructions per clock cycle (the hertz in GHz) than a P4 at the same speed. It has been this way since the Athlon XP.



---------------------------------------------------
taco'fox - Eclipse
Bothan "Elder" | 9x Ace Pilot

Iawalein
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:37 am
#21

Your damage may be lower due to reistances (as modified by the mob's CL level with respect to your own), especially if you take into account whether you use armor break.

If you are killing the same mob with the same crystals (including the elemental damage crystal) on the same saber, then I'd suspect that those mobs have received an increase in resistances or our sabers have been nerfed yet again.



(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9&ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Major Iawalein Atwy, Zabrak Elder Jedi & Rebel Ace
Makabukk, Wookie Elder Bounty Hunter & Freelance Ace
Mayum'I, Human Elder Shipwright, Imperial Pilot


125 badges and counting

Remember the fate of the mantis, or you too shall suffer it's destiny.
Master Paper. Nerf scissors! Scissors is unbalanced, I can't beat them!
Leave paper alone; paper is ok, so is rock.

Iawalein
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:40 am
#22



taco_fox wrote:
Heat has nothing to do with how Athlon 64s perform faster than Pentium 4s. It has to do with the fact that the A64 does more instructions per clock cycle (the hertz in GHz) than a P4 at the same speed. It has been this way since the Athlon XP.




Pre-Athlon XP the reason that the Athlon was faster than the Pentium at the same clock speed was its increased efficiency.

The Pentium was faster (more instructions per given time) with a wider bus, but from what I read the Pentium made more errors and ended up taking even more time to correct them compared to the Athlon due to the wider bus (supposedly more information to purge and rewrite when an error was made). I don't know if that makes any sense though since the bus is faster so should be able to take care of more info.

Is the XP still more efficient? I know that both CPUs are capable of generating some serious heat, so I doubt that heat is a significant factor in anything.



(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9&ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Major Iawalein Atwy, Zabrak Elder Jedi & Rebel Ace
Makabukk, Wookie Elder Bounty Hunter & Freelance Ace
Mayum'I, Human Elder Shipwright, Imperial Pilot


125 badges and counting

Remember the fate of the mantis, or you too shall suffer it's destiny.
Master Paper. Nerf scissors! Scissors is unbalanced, I can't beat them!
Leave paper alone; paper is ok, so is rock.

Iawalein
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:42 am
#23



Boatsheets wrote:


vnicula wrote:
get some flawless/premiums, your saber damage sucks.




Shut up. Idiot.




That saber isn't too bad compared to what the average jedi owns. I think that the issue was whether there is something changed WRT saber damage. This could be proven with even a 150-250 damage saber. LOL



(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9&ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Major Iawalein Atwy, Zabrak Elder Jedi & Rebel Ace
Makabukk, Wookie Elder Bounty Hunter & Freelance Ace
Mayum'I, Human Elder Shipwright, Imperial Pilot


125 badges and counting

Remember the fate of the mantis, or you too shall suffer it's destiny.
Master Paper. Nerf scissors! Scissors is unbalanced, I can't beat them!
Leave paper alone; paper is ok, so is rock.

Iawalein
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:44 am
#24



Bugboy321 wrote:

Does that mean they run cooler than whatAMD's were notorious for? I had an AMD chip that gave me fits years ago so I've stayed away from them since then.This Intel chip I have is hot as a furnace, the stock fan sounded like an airplane taking off. Had to get a different fan to save my hearing lol.

EDIT: Oops, my message posted before Ithe lastmessage. This is getting off topic, though, I think I've gotten my question answered, thank you all for your help!

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 09-01-2005 12:25 PM





I've never had issues with heat with ANY Athlon. I've had AMDs since the K series, and I've used even the stock fans included in the retail packages.

The only thing needed is a fairly weak intake and outtake case fan along with the correct amount of thermal grease. They run hot, but they have pretty good heat tolerance as well.

Given, I've never overclocked them-that might be a reason to go with a cooler processor.



(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9&ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Major Iawalein Atwy, Zabrak Elder Jedi & Rebel Ace
Makabukk, Wookie Elder Bounty Hunter & Freelance Ace
Mayum'I, Human Elder Shipwright, Imperial Pilot


125 badges and counting

Remember the fate of the mantis, or you too shall suffer it's destiny.
Master Paper. Nerf scissors! Scissors is unbalanced, I can't beat them!
Leave paper alone; paper is ok, so is rock.

Iawalein
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:48 am
#25



EnderStarfall wrote:


vnicula wrote:
get some flawless/premiums, your saber damage sucks.


First of all azzclown if ya cant be constructive and offer som advice without being an Idiot S T F U and stay out of the forums. He wasnt complaining about his general damage dealing ability. He was wondering if he was doing less damage due to a bug. I suggest you go back to Kindergarden and learn how to play nice with other people before opening that cake hole of yours on here again. Or maybe you need to go back to mommy and demand to be breast fed?
For the OP of thisthread go to your Options Ctrl+O and click on your Chat Options and scroll all the way down. Make sure you have checked off Verbose Combat Chat Style and Include all messeges in combat chat. This will help you to see the damage you are doing both before Mitigation and After as well as what your Elemental Damage is.






You also get options for whether to show the weapon type and such. That can give you expanded combat information without a three or four line entry for each attack.



(gnn[[[[[[[[[[]nnnWX9&ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Major Iawalein Atwy, Zabrak Elder Jedi & Rebel Ace
Makabukk, Wookie Elder Bounty Hunter & Freelance Ace
Mayum'I, Human Elder Shipwright, Imperial Pilot


125 badges and counting

Remember the fate of the mantis, or you too shall suffer it's destiny.
Master Paper. Nerf scissors! Scissors is unbalanced, I can't beat them!
Leave paper alone; paper is ok, so is rock.

-HadesBabe-
Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:49 am
#26

I haven't noticed a lower damage output than the minimum, but my average damage with Ranged Shot on my MBH/MRifles is on par with the minimum dps of the weapon I find myself using.



WMeego The-MadW
Zabrak on Fire
Member of the LJO
Meego
Page 2 of 3