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TheCapn2000 wrote:

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Mistwaver wrote:

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TheCapn2000 wrote:
armor is still there...AI is just useless...unless you want to get yourself de-aggroed and kill your groupmates....

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Wrong.

Read through the forums. in fact, read my posts. AI does not loose aggro like it was falsly reported.

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hmmm...guildmate tested it many times and the aggro went directly to the next highest damage dealer or healer....

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That will happen on ANYTHING. Whether you're using AI or not. It's called hate. Stop attacking for a second, the same thing will happen.

I have used it many, many times and never lost aggro a single time.

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Mistwaver wrote:

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Orthell wrote:

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ShinjoKazuki wrote:
Is master defender still a good tank? And is AI still a viable move in pvp or pve?

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I am wondering that myself. AI is suicide PvP and worthless for tanking now, force aura and valor are NOT working as effectively as before, in other words, they NERFED them. This has been confirmed from testing with players, NPCs, and creatures, it was nerfed.

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Really? Was it? Then explain to me, if you will, why I take the same amount of damage from CL 82 kaadus (approx. 92) post pub-24 as I did pre? Many publishes ago, around publish 20 or so a few Jedi on TC-Prime did a test using the same attack, once without aura, and once without aura, with aura enabled he took ~10 points of damage less. Now, how is that changed then how it is now?

The fact is this simple:
Aura/CoB NEVER was as effective in PvP as it is in PvE, and it never was as effective in high-end PvE as it is in lower end PvE. It is not intended to be an "I WIN" buff, it's just supposed to give you a defensive bonus.

Aura/CoB has remained untouched, improved versions still give you 500 more melee/ranged defense, decreasing the damage you take, and increasing your avoidance.

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Myself and several others are experience major differences. My main experience is with NPCs, at first I figured they must of had an accuracy bonus added, becuase the same mission on the corvette when NPCs would miss me on most shots, are now hitting me with nearly every shot. I had to spam healing when I used to be able to take them down without taking so much damage. So I just figured at first it was an accuracy change on NPCs. Then I've talked to others in game and on forums reporting the exact same experiences with players and creatures, having to heal way more and nearly every hit is getting thru according to combat logs.

My combat logs show for a fact on my side either accuracy changed, or aura and valor changed. Since other players state that PvP, more hits are getting thru, and more creature and NPC attacks are getting thru, leads me to believe it is not working as before.

I am going from the changes in the combat logs, something has changed, I'm taking way more damage and so are alot of others. If it wasn't nerfed, then EVERYBODY was beefed up in accuracy including players.

BTW, it was VERY effective PvP for the BH that didn't take accuracy foods. I've stood their just letting them spam away letting them exhaust themselves first before I would strike back. I can't do that anymore.

Message Edited by Orthell on 10-27-2005 11:10 AM

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Mistwaver wrote:

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TheCapn2000 wrote:

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Mistwaver wrote:

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TheCapn2000 wrote:
armor is still there...AI is just useless...unless you want to get yourself de-aggroed and kill your groupmates....

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Wrong.

Read through the forums. in fact, read my posts. AI does not loose aggro like it was falsly reported.

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hmmm...guildmate tested it many times and the aggro went directly to the next highest damage dealer or healer....

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That will happen on ANYTHING. Whether you're using AI or not. It's called hate. Stop attacking for a second, the same thing will happen.

I have used it many, many times and never lost aggro a single time.

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I am gonna get somemore info on it...because what was described and what you are describing are different....