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Thread: FRS Idea

Sir_BlackDevil
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:09 am
#14




Kal_Choedan wrote:
Sound idea TBH and totaly open to exploitation again. Ive got access to a few BH's to make sure of my progress through the FRS with this system. Shame because the idea is a good one as a part of the ranking points system.




How easy is it to get a bounty on a specific Jedi since the removal of names?

It is my impression it's harder, as I mentioned above all Jedi in the FRS would be on the BH mission terminals and as such would be harder to get a specific mission. Also if a BH was to drop a mission it would count as a survival for the mark and give them survival points.
Zoei
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:21 am
#15

Don't like the idea because it doesn'tlet you control how fast you go trough the rankings. People would exploit that method get mishs for theirs friends and lose on purpose or something. It should be missions or something that you do not have to depend on others to climb the ranks in t he system, if it is all pvp you have to be able to fight other people, what if no one is on and all you want to do is work on your ranking....would suck.But ya they will make it something stupid like you need be in a huge group and you get some ridiculously low amount of xp per kill which is then divided by the amount of people in group. Or they will make it so easy everyone will have Jedi Master in a Week. Guess it is kinda hard to find a good way though, but i hope they choose the best.


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Sir_BlackDevil
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:32 am
#16

So how easy is it to get the same BH mission over and over.


Also to combat this they could have it so the same BH kill/defeat twice or more times in succession doesn't count to FRS point loss/gain.
SuperchargedDai
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:25 am
#17

A Jedi Temple, a place where there would be a council (NPC's only- to keep players from becoming council members, or a council leader which would allow for players to achieve power greater than others could, making it seem unfair and pointless for new players to even try and catch up if they wish to do the jedi thang as well!) this could be placed on any planet the devs felt it most appropriate to make a backstory and tie it into the game.

The first players to make their way to the temple, and be trained from padawan to knight, from there they could interact with the NPC council with who'm they could talk with to decide what skills they would choose to sharpen. If players decided they wanted to become a Jedi Sentinel( have an even mix of powers and saber skill bonuses), Jedi Gaurdian, they could talk with the council who would assign training to them (i.e. task or missions. A type of quest)

Jedi temples will consist of many rooms, in which different training programs can be ran. Training rooms will conist of many mini quests to help players understand their role as a jedi and use of their skills.


FromInitiate to Master...

When you become an Initiate you will go infront of the NPC council, and they will give you quests and send you topeople to talk to in the jedi temple, who will also give you quests. When you have proven yourself you will be promoted to Padawan (note: you do not have to do every quest in the temple just the minimum amount of quests needed to progress, side:note: not all quests will conist of an actual trainer of somekind, some may just be someone asking for a help, or an accident in the temple, or out in the plainswhich needs immediate attention or what not.) From there you can either train under a one of the NPC council members who will have you run a random bunch of quests, or you can have a Rank IV player join up with you, and take off planet missions for the council, which would consist of corvette like areas or caves, mini events etc(much content would need to be added)(these missions could even extend to space/ space stations, which would need to be added to help progress a storyline) from there you would continue these missions until you had completed a certain number and were granted title of knight. From here the council would ask you what skill you would like to specialize in -Consular- or-Sentinel- or -Guardian-. Once you choose the council would give you tasks, and you would partake in many different events in the temple till you were granted the title of your choice, in which your progression through your personal rank would begin. Till you got to rank IV and decided you wanted to be a master, in which case you would need to train a padawan just as you had been trained. Taken on missions provided by the council off planet and what not, till the padawan was a knight and continue his journey without further assistance.

For Dark Jedi this would all be the same, but it would be neccesary to add the planet Korriban. Im sure the devs could think of many fun things to add if this planet were intregrated, along with its Dark Jedi Temple.


FRS points could only be gained by doing quests for the Council. And depending on the difficulty of the quest determines the FRS points recieved.


FRS quests example-When Obi wan (apprentice)and Qui gon(master) went to talk to the trade federation.


new Jedi Rank Progression...

__________________-Master- +(skill of previous rank choice)+(skills from the jedi trees i.e. Lightsaber, Force enhancer etc.)

-Consular IV-|-Sentinel IV-| -Guardian IV-

-Consular III-|-Sentinel III-| -Guardian III-

-Consular II-|-Sentinel II-| -Guardian II-

-Consular-or -Sentinel-or -Guardian-

-Knight-

-Padawan-

-Initiate-


Initiate, Padawan, and Knight would still be the same, but heres where you would see the change...


instead of everyone going to the same rank (this would give more player diversity among the jedi community)


You would either choose between -Consular- or-Sentinel- or -Guardian-


-Jedi Consular- aka -Dark Jedi Oppressor- (CHARACTER FOCUSED ON FORCE POWERS-Lower level Saber skills)

-Jedi Sentinel- aka -Dark Jedi Marauder- ( BALANCE OF BOTH SABER AND FORCE SKILLS)

-Jedi Guardian- aka -Dark Jedi Enforcer- (CHARACTER FOCUSED ON SABER SKILLS-Lower level Force skills)



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ImperialObserver101
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:26 am
#18
it wouldnt work



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AnTriX
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:30 am
#19
don't you think it's too easy?



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kofep
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:44 am
#20

Dont take this as a direct flame because its not.
BUT who asked anyone from the jedi community for ideas??Have you(and when i say "you" is in plural) ever saw a post made by the devs asking for our opinion/idea about something ???I havent..


So this posts are pointless since i actualy dont belive that they even read this forum lol


Im sorry is just my opinion...besides FRS whatever they decided im sure is already planed and they not even asked for our opinion...



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Cojonelso
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:57 am
#21

People please don't flame someone with a constructive ... postive Idea...he is not a dev ...he didn't not break the game for you ... don't punish him... add ideas or explain the parts you don't see fitting... the simple It wouldn't work shows a level of shallowness thats very disturbing...if you don't agree or don't like something please state what exactly so ppl may consider your opinon and agree or disagree and so the idea can evolve with your vaulable input and grow to something great ... a simple it won't work is the slap in the face of something this guy obvilously put hours maybe days of thought into at least show that much respect... with that said


I like the IDea as a base... I think more interaction with other players and a lil less NPC would be better .. after all its is a on-line game not Kotor.


maybe have a Knight help you from initiate throu padawan trials.. and only knights can train padawans at all in skills till they feel they have enough skills to attempt the knight trials them selves.. which could be a set of solo missions no one may help on.. and NO ... no stupid must kill kryat ...nova trooper stuff..I meen real quests that a knight would have to attempt based on the Jedi Code.


Make Light side and dark side Jedi Faction non related to the GCW.... and NO FORCED PVP !!!!!!! at all... it really a anti-Jedi concept... the BH hunting us is all ready horrible not cause we lose xp or it slows down our grind...but because Jedi players are FORCED to be content for a BH.... forced.... think about that .....


Jedi should earn a xp bonus for helping others.. for conflict resolutions and restoring order (NPC missions) and by maintaining a low profile...



I really like your ranking system expecially if we get different robes for the different ranks and so on.


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RogueLeader7
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:58 am
#22
Looks exactly like how the profession advances in KOTOR to me...



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Cojonelso
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:00 am
#23
Oh and look at the smuggler changes coming up and the changes with slicing...they do listen and implement ...even space minning was a player Idea posted to the forums...


Just because we are upset at whats missiing is no reason to not post contructive ideas... at least its not another I WANT MY WIN button back post...or pearls suck post ...those are things we know..and not like..and have no control over ...this is a great post



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Xeon8
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:35 am
#24




Cojonelso wrote:

Oh and look at the smuggler changes coming up and the changes with slicing...they do listen and implement ...even space minning was a player Idea posted to the forums...


Just because we are upset at whats missiing is no reason to not post contructive ideas... at least its not another I WANT MY WIN button back post...or pearls suck post ...those are things we know..and not like..and have no control over ...this is a great post



Glizmo(SP?) has had a pretty good FRS idea for as long as i can remember, and a lot of people liked it. I would bet that the new FRS will be nothing like his vision. Like other people said, i bet is pretty rare that the devs would actually take something out of this forum. I mean who would want to surf through all the crying to find the rare but good idea posts.




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GCWKing
Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:29 pm
#25
I am a bh with a frs idea.


Jedi should have permedeath but only another jedi can permedeath a jedi and the limit of deaths should be 20. well a jedi with the rank knight can train a padwan. The bonouses are ass your padwan gains xp you gain frs and your padwan gets a inspiration buff if there in a group with there master. If the master or padwan is attacked by a bh the other can help fight the bh. I mean in star wars a jedi wouldnt just sit around as his master or padwan is attacked. Heres a side note on the jedi permedeath this will improve the frd in variouse ways. It will be more rewarding because with permedeath a council member can become lifelong. Heres an idea many jedi will love the ability to cross over to the darkside. Well theres something called darkside points 1000 in all. and a jedi can gain points by using the angry buff light and dark have it. It gives jedi the ability to get enhanced accuracy and damage but lowers defence. This buff gives 50 darkside faction. another way is to read a sith holocron. SIth holocrons give you 500 darkside faction . Im thinking of making it so holocrons are stuff jedi can craft it gives the ability to write stuff in them and teach skills with them.when the jedi gets 1000 darkside faction HE will recieve a visit from darth vader. he will give him the chance to the darkside. if he accpets then all light jedi will get a tef. to provent grief will have it so when he atacks a jedi any other jedi in the area can attack him if he kills one jedi. he will recieve a second visit from vadar. Then he will give you your darkside aprentince robe and remove your rank from light side frs. Thats when you start at low rank. and you will always be a aprentince in any rank you have. but its a frs requirement to get on the council and train a aprentince is to kill your master. Its the sith way to kill your master and with permedeath the master wont just let his aprentince kill him. Another idea is vaopad it gives you a unique fighting style which does more damage defense and accuracy. but a jedi with vaopad is likely to slip to the darkside. learning vaopad is only 1 jedi per council can have. and its as hard as dwb. but having vaopad can trend you to the darkside. You need to find mace windus holocrons and find a sith holocron. and it requires the anger buff to even use vaopad.
DexbaccatheWookie
Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:36 pm
#26




GCWKing wrote:

I am a bh with a frs idea.


Jedi should have permedeath but only another jedi can permedeath a jedi and the limit of deaths should be 20. well a jedi with the rank knight can train a padwan. The bonouses are ass your padwan gains xp you gain frs and your padwan gets a inspiration buff if there in a group with there master. If the master or padwan is attacked by a bh the other can help fight the bh. I mean in star wars a jedi wouldnt just sit around as his master or padwan is attacked. Heres a side note on the jedi permedeath this will improve the frd in variouse ways. It will be more rewarding because with permedeath a council member can become lifelong. Heres an idea many jedi will love the ability to cross over to the darkside. Well theres something called darkside points 1000 in all. and a jedi can gain points by using the angry buff light and dark have it. It gives jedi the ability to get enhanced accuracy and damage but lowers defence. This buff gives 50 darkside faction. another way is to read a sith holocron. SIth holocrons give you 500 darkside faction . Im thinking of making it so holocrons are stuff jedi can craft it gives the ability to write stuff in them and teach skills with them.when the jedi gets 1000 darkside faction HE will recieve a visit from darth vader. he will give him the chance to the darkside. if he accpets then all light jedi will get a tef. to provent grief will have it so when he atacks a jedi any other jedi in the area can attack him if he kills one jedi. he will recieve a second visit from vadar. Then he will give you your darkside aprentince robe and remove your rank from light side frs. Thats when you start at low rank. and you will always be a aprentince in any rank you have. but its a frs requirement to get on the council and train a aprentince is to kill your master. Its the sith way to kill your master and with permedeath the master wont just let his aprentince kill him. Another idea is vaopad it gives you a unique fighting style which does more damage defense and accuracy. but a jedi with vaopad is likely to slip to the darkside. learning vaopad is only 1 jedi per council can have. and its as hard as dwb. but having vaopad can trend you to the darkside. You need to find mace windus holocrons and find a sith holocron. and it requires the anger buff to even use vaopad.





This is quiet possibly one of the greatest ideas I have read. Dark/Light factions should be in the game. I think the Anger Buff is pretty neat. Fighting styles might be a pain to implement, but there is no reason what so ever That Master/Apprentice isnt ingame as well as Dark and Light factions.






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