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Thread: Devs why don't you have respect for powers?

Gingali
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:25 pm
#14

when will you learn it? You ask when they will stop nerfing us? Well, here is clicky for all you lost souls.
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One-Wit_DaForce
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:42 am
#15

We need to demand a respec from this. If a powerset changes then respec should be open to all people holding that power. Not just a tree but a full respec to rebuild or redesign away from the nerf. Expect MEH and MDEF to get there I will no die buttons fixed as well.



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Kev0r
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:47 am
#16






Swinder wrote:

You must not be Powers and have know idea what we are going threw through.




Loack was intended to be an escape and evasion tool. Instead, it turned into "I can do what I like and will never die" tool; training mobs, invincible looting, etc.


Seems a shame that it will be so limited in it's uses now, but instead of taking it out on the devs maybe try taking it out on the guys who exploited cloak until it was hated by anyone who didn't have it.





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Durzel
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:49 am
#17

I wasn't aware Powers had a skill called "Loack".

Jeez man, how bad at spelling/typing do you have to be to stick the "c" in Cloak four letters away from where it should be?



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cloudwalker1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:52 am
#18






Kev0r wrote:





Swinder wrote:

You must not be Powers and have know idea what we are going threw through.




Loack was intended to be an escape and evasion tool. Instead, it turned into "I can do what I like and will never die" tool; training mobs, invincible looting, etc.


Seems a shame that it will be so limited in it's uses now, but instead of taking it out on the devs maybe try taking it out on the guys who exploited cloak until it was hated by anyone who didn't have it.








was never really like this, although it did allow and WILL STILL allow us to escape BH/gamksquads


lol im sick of hearing this lie go around. Mobs cannot be trained as soon as person with agro loses agro mob will rreturn to start point unless tou are foolish enough to attack it or to be standing at origanal spawn opoint, quit with the lies already


Already found a work around to this if the changes go through as they have been listed





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Kev0r
Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:59 am
#19

My apologies, I should have been clearer. I do not mean training mobs onto others I simply mean training them away from their original location, for example at PVE bases in order that others can enter with impunity.

Message Edited by Kev0r on 09-19-2005 11:00 AM



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Erynder
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:03 am
#20






_Saevio_ wrote:






Swinder wrote:


Tell us why,






chill. They are working on professions, Ranger is getting a total revamp and Squad Leader is getting some upgrades too... they are also prepping for the ToOW release... In time, every prof will get it's due attention... so just chill, have patience and stop complaining for two minutes.... or you could help them out by coming up with some in depth original ideas instead of posting useless threads that will not get answered anyway....



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cloudwalker1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:04 am
#21


ahh well sorry about that, but you do realise defnders Ai is far more usful to keep agro and due to massive drain on force when cloaked AI users can hold agro for 2 minutes more roughly





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BooleScaric
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:08 am
#22






Swinder wrote:


Tell us why,






why do most jedi do not understand, that powers is not meant to be equal to LS f.e.?


it is crowd control...


why dont you understand that some changes must be done to balance a whole system (complain when really all changes to cloak are live)


Kev0r
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:12 am
#23






cloudwalker1 wrote:


ahh well sorry about that, but you do realise defnders Ai is far more usful to keep agro and due to massive drain on force when cloaked AI users can hold agro for 2 minutes more roughly






I think the main issue has been that cloak was intended to hide a player away from the world, make it as if they were never there. I guess it's an extension of Darth Sidious' powers of hiding himself away from the jedi.


But this inert skill was heading towards a much abused system of subverting other game mechanics. I'm sure that there would be other exploits that would have arisen.





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cloudwalker1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:28 am
#24






BooleScaric wrote:





Swinder wrote:


Tell us why,






why do most jedi do not understand, that powers is not meant to be equal to LS f.e.?


it is crowd control...


why dont you understand that some changes must be done to balance a whole system (complain when really all changes to cloak are live)







hmm crowd control tell me how i can control a crowd, plus the devs stated at the CU that powers was meant to be a rival for LS in damage

LOL sorry but you really have no idea

Message Edited by cloudwalker1 on 09-19-2005 11:29 AM





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Durzel
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:31 am
#25



cloudwalker1 wrote:


BooleScaric wrote:


Swinder wrote:
Tell us why,



why do most jedi do not understand, that powers is not meant to be equal to LS f.e.?

it is crowd control...

why dont you understand that some changes must be done to balance a whole system (complain when really all changes to cloak are live)




hmm crowd control tell me how i can control a crowd, plus the devs stated at the CU that powers was meant to be a rival for LS in damage
LOL sorry but you really have no idea

Message Edited by cloudwalker1 on 09-19-2005 11:29 AM



You're wasting your breath I think mate.

A lot of LS users believe because we somehow forced them to spend "80 million" on premium pearls etc that they should be automatically godlike compared with Powers. God forbid any of them actually loot pearls themselves for free.

I wouldn't mind if Powers was actually even comparable damage to LS - with the best sabres edging them out, atm it's not even close.



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cloudwalker1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:31 am
#26






Kev0r wrote:





cloudwalker1 wrote:


ahh well sorry about that, but you do realise defnders Ai is far more usful to keep agro and due to massive drain on force when cloaked AI users can hold agro for 2 minutes more roughly






I think the main issue has been that cloak was intended to hide a player away from the world, make it as if they were never there. I guess it's an extension of Darth Sidious' powers of hiding himself away from the jedi.


But this inert skill was heading towards a much abused system of subverting other game mechanics. I'm sure that there would be other exploits that would have arisen.








Ive already seen defenders do this they can run into a base all way to boittem before they need to heal have all the agro and use Ai for 3-4 minutes while slicers slice base. When force is going they all leavebase and regeain force or another defender repeats it, if they didnt manage to slice all the terminals





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