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Thread: New Jedi Enclaves and FRS
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ussormi
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:47 am
#15
great ideas but I think its too much work for SOE.... they can't even fix bugs.
HitorikiBattousai
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:25 am
#17
Llazarus wrote:
Dude you spelled almost all the Jedi titles wrong. Sentinal -> sentinel. Gaurdain -> Guardian. Templer -> Templar.
PvP in this game sucks, so I wouldnt base it too much on that.
What are you, 10? "oh noes you spelt it wrong"
Xur, it's all lookin good man keep it up I haven't found that binary yet but i'ma get it soon.. it's somewhere in my damn houses I know it.
-Kash
SqUiShEe08
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:40 am
#18
I hope when they bring back the enclaves that there is a reason to be there because that will help keep us hiding and keep the other players from complaining that they see us too much.
dubber2558
Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:33 am
#19
xur-soma wrote:
Seems to a big debate over PvP and Role Playing for the FRS and I hope they can find a balance to make everyone happy with it, becuase if the FRS fails IMO the game SWG will not be fare behind it. Whilenone of us know what it will be like what ever they do i hope it works!
Things I want to see would be :
New Jedi Enclaves : These should huge and very impressive to be in with dueling arenas in each of them for jedi to use to practice and or duel each other or even hold tournaments. Under gound is fine to stay out of sight but this is no reason they need to be so small and we should have a reason to go their unlike now whats the point? or even pre-cu?. An example would be like the Jedi Acadamy in Jedi Outcast I when you go back in it at the end of the game on Yavin that is huge and its all based around a dueling arena thats what I am talking about so 5-6 times the size they are now.
The Padawan / Master Relationship
I think it was "glizmo" somthing like thatthat had this set very well but this sytem could be great fun for both players and serve as a non-combat and combat way to get FRS points.
Dark and Light Jedi Factions
Again this had been said before but I think its very important for the game, for that matter I think MBH's and Smugglers should be able to join Jabba and Valarian Factions as they were not so much even envolved with the GCW unless they had a reason to be ( ie money )
PvE Quests from the Dark / Light Enclaves :
This game badly needs more content and we have many things that could be "fixed" added by doing this. The other "named" color crystals not in game could be put in by doing missions, Prems and Flawless Pealrs and Crystals can be added in a limited and controled way. ( a great way to add crystals caves ) Saber Schematics do nothing but give a new look no extra dmg or speed just a new unique look. CA's and other loot just like BH's can get by doing NPC missions quests.
PvP Quests Combat and non Combat quests :
Because I have a BH also I know how fair a BH fight is no out side help its 1 on 1 between two people and their is NO! other match up as well controled as this one in the game so...I am hoping the main way to get FRS points is based of this model but for Dark and Light Jedi factions and not BH vs Jedi. TheTEF is great once it starts thats it its beweet the 2 Jedi and thats it! to the deathor until one runs/gets away. You should get - points for fleeing though and limited points for forcing a jedi to run away from you. Other wise cloakers and enhancers willbecome the FOTM.
Example :
NPC in Light Jedi Enclave says "we have a list of Dark Jedi that are growing powerful and causing unrest we need you to confront this evil but it will not be easy" or Dark Jedi NPC"a young Light Padawan has grown strong in the force you must dispose of him quicky" ( somthing like that you get the point ) Then you get a list to pick "RANDOM" Jedi players and hunt them down using the same basic system the BH's have. You could add a Jedi console that holds this information and acts like a tracking droid with the radial menu and after "x" amount of time get the message telling what planet the jedi is on.The only diferance is the hunted jedi should get a system msg on his screen " you feel a distrubace in the force" when the attacker gets close and the other player or attacker should become attackable. In other words no first strike advatage these are Jedi+ jedi dont need it.
The Padawan / Master Relationship could serve as the non-combat way of getting FRS points but I see no reason why they can come up with a few other ways to aid players, but this should limited IMO as most people do not play the game for this reason.
The top spots in each Jedi Enclave should be an NPC
Not aPC I thinkthis is common sence so people are not crying over that spot and each group works more together and can stop fighting each other for rank and start fighting the other faction! The light side can NOT have the ablity to kick people out of their rank I cant even beleave that was put it in the first place! if you loose it it should be becuase you kepp loosing fights or can protect aid your padawan! not becuase some other person feels he needs to be cool and kick you out simply becuase he feels like it.
I also think they need to come up with more classes of Jedi so every type of Jedican gain rank in the FRS
Lightside :
Jedi Master : The top spot in the game and can be any of the lower types ( end game but you can loose this spot
Jedi Sentinal : This player has been very succsessfulin the PvP combat missions and or helping his padawan(s)
Jedi Gaurdain : Fighters so they get FRS points through combat and some through helping aiding their padawan,bonus to Enhancer tree
Jedi Scholar : Teachers / Healers get a bouns to FRS points with helping their padawan and a bonus to the healing tree
Jedi Knight : The ability to aid another player ( padawan ) and take missions in the Enclave to advace.
Darkside :
Dark Jedi Master : The top spot in the game can and be any of the lower types ( end game but you can loose this spot )
Dark Jedi Sentinal : This player has been very succsessfulin the PvP combat missions and or helping his padawan(s)
Dark Jedi Gaurdain : Fighters so they get FRS points through combat anda bonus to thepowers tree
Dark Jedi Templer : Teachers of the dark sideget a bouns to FRS points with helping their padawan anda bonus to thepowers tree
Dark Jedi Knight : The ability to aid another player ( padawan ) and take missions in the Enclave to advace.
After being a knight for a given time and getting the requiered ( the hard way that we all hopethsi will be! ) FRS points you then would have to choose your path Gaurdian or Scholar Gaurdian or Templer.
The gaurdians get more FRS points with PvP combat and loose more with PvP combat, while they gain less through helping their padawan but loose less thorugh not beeing able to help their padawan.
The Scholar or Templer is the opposite gain more through helping their padawan and loosemorewhen not able to do so. They will gain less in combat but loose less as well.
This would provide more ways of advancement through the FRS the chalange would be to make it even and fair for both types! The Gaurdain spots may behard to keep becuase most would go this route but if your into PvP then you should not shy away from somthing like this.
just an idea the FRS is being done now so who knows what they will dobut the points is its possible to make everyone happy the only question is can SOE do it ? we shall seei am hoping they can.
Message Edited by xur-soma on 09-04-200511:31 AM
You had me all the way up to jedi choosing classes. I don't personally like jedi classes. I don't think we should try to emulate KOTOR or JAto the letter. Take the truly great ideas from JA and KOTOR I and II but tmake them unique and truly SWG-ish. Keep the creative thoughts coming though...
jrt
Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:00 pm
#20
i hope they bring back perma overt and its all pvp for the FRS or its just going to suck
xur-soma
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:45 am
#24
HitorikiBattousai wrote:
Llazarus wrote:
Dude you spelled almost all the Jedi titles wrong. Sentinal -> sentinel. Gaurdain -> Guardian. Templer -> Templar.
PvP in this game sucks, so I wouldnt base it too much on that.
What are you, 10? "oh noes you spelt it wrong"
Xur, it's all lookin good man keep it up I haven't found that binary yet but i'ma get it soon.. it's somewhere in my damn houses I know it.
-Kash
sweet man let me know when you find it
its fine with me if you dislike the ideas I don't think it really matters IMO as SOE is in the middle of making the FRS so they should have the model for it already. My point was really to show that you can make people happy both the PvP and rollplayers. As for the die had must be overt all the time gank fest pvpers I hope my self it is not like that. Cloak will become a must have to avoid squads of FRS point seeking, gank fest playing, noobs that cant PvP thier way out of a wet paper bag.
whatever they do I just hope its a good challenge as well as fun and not exploitable and ganking is not a way to get FRS points, you should do it on your own...
And yes "glizmo" had a great and much more detailed idea for the FRS it was very well done! I my self want nothing to do with the GCW on my jedi. But really want to see the light/dark jedi factions just like glizmo had....
I would really like to hunt down other jedi though that be a blast for sure
Message Edited by xur-soma on 09-06-2005 12:01 PM
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