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Message Edited by wildcat84 on 10-19-2005 10:45 AM

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wildcat84 wrote:
Not to mention, they at the last SECOND took out the cost increase to CM/Doc heals. Which means not only will a BH be able to prevent us from EVER getting more than one hit in melee unless he's a complete idiot, he can still heal forever at lower cost than us because mind outregens force.

Basically any BH that loses to a Jedi OR EVEN HAS A NON CLOAKER ESCAPE at this point has no clue about their abilities.

Frankly, I intend to retemplate my BH to take full advantage of this, and I suggest we ALL do. The more this "Iwin" button is used, the faster it will be yanked.

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wildcat84 wrote:

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Kresh_Azzo wrote:
This is actually more of a Jedi nerf than a ranged nerf.

1) Snares no longer stack.
-This affects us non-jedi melee players when we are using /burstrun, but the duration and cooldown makes it a hit or miss tactic for us anyway. Other than that is keeps us from being stacked when we are in normal movement mode. As is stands before publish 24 we could be stacked into absolutely no movement. That will not happen to us now.

2) Why is this a Jedi nerf and not a melee nerf?
-You have been able to force run at will until now. We (regular melee) do not have an at will movement buff other than /bu, which as stated above is useless if the fight lasts beyond the initial timer.

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Burtstrun is a skill even a CL1 novice anything (or even no novice anything has). Forcerun is A FORCE POWER that takes millions upon millions of XP, and months of grinding to get.

That the devs even CONSIDER the two in the same light is absolutely absurd.

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Message Edited by Kresh_Azzo on 10-19-2005 01:34 PM

I'm just very grateful to them for releasing Pub 24 now. I have plenty of time to cancel my accounts and the preorderif this is as stupid as it seems...

Wolf

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Kresh_Azzo wrote:

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wildcat84 wrote:

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Kresh_Azzo wrote:
This is actually more of a Jedi nerf than a ranged nerf.

1) Snares no longer stack.
-This affects us non-jedi melee players when we are using /burstrun, but the duration and cooldown makes it a hit or miss tactic for us anyway. Other than that is keeps us from being stacked when we are in normal movement mode. As is stands before publish 24 we could be stacked into absolutely no movement. That will not happen to us now.

2) Why is this a Jedi nerf and not a melee nerf?
-You have been able to force run at will until now. We (regular melee) do not have an at will movement buff other than /bu, which as stated above is useless if the fight lasts beyond the initial timer.

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Burtstrun is a skill even a CL1 novice anything (or even no novice anything has). Forcerun is A FORCE POWER that takes millions upon millions of XP, and months of grinding to get.

That the devs even CONSIDER the two in the same light is absolutely absurd.

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The point here is the "nerf" is to Jedi and not all melee professions. Although someone seems to have convinced members of the separate melee communities otherwise.

I stated above that the nerf is to /forceRun, not to /burstRun. The only comparison came because Jedi are claiming this to nerf ALL melee professions, when in truth it actually works out better for non-FR professions because they don't stack anymore. Sure, A melee person could complain about burst being slapped, but my point was that burst was not that important anyway.

Honestly, this new system will benefit Jedi without FR in their templates the same way it benefits tk, sword, pikes * fencer.

Message Edited by Kresh_Azzo on 10-19-2005 01:34 PM

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How can this new system benefit anyone but ranged professions?

Nobody likes being snared / rooted indefinitely and the main problem IMO is having a status effect like this with no possible cure. FR was being used in effect as a cure to continuous snare / rooting and if the patch does what it seems to say on the tin this cure is being removed.

Maybe they should give Master Healer the ability to remove such status effects?

Also on the theme of /burstrun having too long a timer to be effective, don't forget to factor in parwan nutricake.

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wildcat84 wrote:
Not to mention, they at the last SECOND took out the cost increase to CM/Doc heals. Which means not only will a BH be able to prevent us from EVER getting more than one hit in melee unless he's a complete idiot, he can still heal forever at lower cost than us because mind outregens force.

Basically any BH that loses to a Jedi OR EVEN HAS A NON CLOAKER ESCAPE at this point has no clue about their abilities.

Frankly, I intend to retemplate my BH to take full advantage of this, and I suggest we ALL do. The more this "Iwin" button is used, the faster it will be yanked.

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JaviOneKenobi wrote:

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Kresh_Azzo wrote:

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wildcat84 wrote:

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Kresh_Azzo wrote:
This is actually more of a Jedi nerf than a ranged nerf.

1) Snares no longer stack.
-This affects us non-jedi melee players when we are using /burstrun, but the duration and cooldown makes it a hit or miss tactic for us anyway. Other than that is keeps us from being stacked when we are in normal movement mode. As is stands before publish 24 we could be stacked into absolutely no movement. That will not happen to us now.

2) Why is this a Jedi nerf and not a melee nerf?
-You have been able to force run at will until now. We (regular melee) do not have an at will movement buff other than /bu, which as stated above is useless if the fight lasts beyond the initial timer.

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Burtstrun is a skill even a CL1 novice anything (or even no novice anything has). Forcerun is A FORCE POWER that takes millions upon millions of XP, and months of grinding to get.

That the devs even CONSIDER the two in the same light is absolutely absurd.

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The point here is the "nerf" is to Jedi and not all melee professions. Although someone seems to have convinced members of the separate melee communities otherwise.

I stated above that the nerf is to /forceRun, not to /burstRun. The only comparison came because Jedi are claiming this to nerf ALL melee professions, when in truth it actually works out better for non-FR professions because they don't stack anymore. Sure, A melee person could complain about burst being slapped, but my point was that burst was not that important anyway.

Honestly, this new system will benefit Jedi without FR in their templates the same way it benefits tk, sword, pikes * fencer.

Message Edited by Kresh_Azzo on 10-19-2005 01:34 PM

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How can this new system benefit anyone but ranged professions?

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