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Thread: Cloak is gonna get VEWWYYYY useful come ToOW, and guess why....

Theonedi
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:28 am
#14

unless youre full template, blue dot rolling in = run.



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knite16
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:33 am
#15


Last I hearn Snare will now cancel Force Run. Who knows. Hope I'm wrong. It wouldnt be very hard to re-engague run, but more of a pain in the ass- Like not being able to log back in if your character afks out without resetting the whole damn game. just another pain in the ass.



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WookieOgre
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:35 am
#16

Let me get one thing straight, it does not cancel FR when a snare is applied. What it does do is remove the effectiveness of it for the duration of the snare.


So it goes like this:


BH snares you


You have FR activated but walk around snared anyways


Timer is up on snare you are suddenly Forcerunning again UNLESS they stack a root/mez/snare on you again.



rebellious_imp
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:35 am
#17

I don't think cloak will be usable while engaged in a fight in the near future.

the only way to avoid bh's would be to cloak before the bh engages.



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WookieOgre
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:36 am
#18

Peronally I think regular melee is hurt much more than Jedi. At least we have the opportunity to hit a BH somewhat from 32m. Melee players are just left out in the cold.
Artimities
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:42 am
#19

true... but.... would the BH's action not take a hit from this.. i mean if the jedi can out last the onlslaught.. would the bounty hunter not run out of action? then its on.


or am i wrong?





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killtheidealist
Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:30 am
#20






Artimities wrote:

true... but.... would the BH's action not take a hit from this.. i mean if the jedi can out last the onlslaught.. would the bounty hunter not run out of action? then its on.


or am i wrong?







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Pepcidius
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:09 pm
#21

With current low sac cost ranged weapons, and food/buffs, it's not feasible to ever run a bh out of action or mind. Only thing left to do at this point is run from the true alpha class of swg. (BH) After this goes live, we won't even be able to do that.



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JordonUK
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:11 pm
#22

How are you going to cloak while snared?




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Bunklung
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:27 pm
#23






XanKrieger wrote:

Cause we are getting horrible horrible speed and attack speed nerfs so it may be the only move that can save some, personaly never had cloak but if these snare and speed reduction nerfs are pushed live, i'm mite get it






When cloak is changed with the ranger revamp you will be rooted. Snare + snare = self root. Like stacking AI. So when you get chained with e drain and you cloak, there will be no question as to where you went. You never moved, because you're rooted. Will they change the DOT hitting a cloaked player in time? I doubt it. Althought you can always ALPHA STRIKE THE BH. Sorry, my tummy is full of Rancor Aid.



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Heruler
Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:53 pm
#24



D-Frost wrote:

What about terrain Neg. modifiers? If the BH didn't have any - but the jedi did - would that have made the difference?





bh inherintly have more terain nego than a jedi
bh requires scout 4xxx which includes terrain neg mods

mmmmmpie
Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:46 pm
#25






SpunkyKuma wrote:
"Cause we are getting horrible horrible speed and attack speed nerfs so it may be the only move that can save some, personaly never had cloak but if these snare and speed reduction nerfs are pushed live, i'm mite get it "

While partially true, you're going to have to REALLY try to gain some distance to be able to egage cloak since you'll most likely be snared and the BH (or droid) can keep up with you. Either way if you aren't lucky it's a lose/lose situation.




well, if you have supresion you can root and snare run away, even if they have a droid you can always saber throw at it and knock it out



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Osu-karu
Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:05 pm
#26






SpunkyKuma wrote:
"Cause we are getting horrible horrible speed and attack speed nerfs so it may be the only move that can save some, personaly never had cloak but if these snare and speed reduction nerfs are pushed live, i'm mite get it "

While partially true, you're going to have to REALLY try to gain some distance to be able to egage cloak since you'll most likely be snared and the BH (or droid) can keep up with you. Either way if you aren't lucky it's a lose/lose situation.




Hmm simple solution Load in run away and /Cloak and stay cloaked at all times



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