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Thread: General Temp ?...

perfavorebasta
Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:21 am
#14

to kill nk and krayts above the juve you need a good saber, any template with MD or Def4040+Enhx4xx is good. My choice is Def4440 but don't expect to kill an ancient, I tryed it several times and I failed all of them. Not tryed nk yet, but the katarn is a cake (if not lagging too much).


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SVX007
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:24 am
#15

I have the "guardian template that a few people have mentioned. (MLS 4440DEF 4000HLR 3002ENH) but if our speed was working properly I'd probablybe using template number one.Of course Id miss the basic force run.To me it looks liek FA with the new AI would just be to costly on the force side.




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HarlequinMK19
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:32 am
#16

I'd never use template 1 because it lacks Force Run and Force Speed.


M-Defender is nice for the +70 Innate Armor, and having Valor+Aura but there's little else going for it. The nicest thingabout M-Def, in my opinion, is that you have very nice Defenses that cost you very little Force and are "passive" meaning you have less to worry about in combat.


The two templates you mentioned plus the "Guardian" one are all good, solid templates. I don't think you'll lose out terribly regardless of what you choose.



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Heltain
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:33 am
#17

/bump

Is AI going to cost more force?

It's going to be either of these 2 temps. So any more thoughts are welcome
KingoftheGrind
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:37 am
#18

If you like to tank get atleast 0 4 0 0 enhancer and 0 0 4 0 defnder for improved force aura and force armor 2.


If you are not worried about tanking get more enhancer less defnder and some healing.


Some kind a defense is needed though . youll need FA2 or improved force aura atleast one , If not you will find yourself healing more than attacking .


Its kinda crazy that master LS doesnt have any defense , I find it really odd. Thats why you do not see too many master healers because you would have to sacrifice your saber or your defese to get it .


Just my input.

I would get what is fun for you but at same time get enough defnse so you can survive out there .



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HarlequinMK19
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:38 am
#19






Heltain wrote:
/bump

Is AI going to cost more force?

It's going to be either of these 2 temps. So any more thoughts are welcome





No clue. It's rarely used anyway though, so don't worry about it too much.


I wouldn't count out the MLS/444x Defender/3xx2 Enhancer/4xxx Healer "Guardian" template though. The choice however, is yours.


If I had to pick between the two templates you're set on though, I would take number 2. Celerity from Enhancer is too important to go without, in my opinion. The first one is probably the better "solo PVE" template though, but just remember...BH's will come for you, and in my opinion, template 2 will be better for that.



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SVX007
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:52 am
#20






Heltain wrote:
/bump

Is AI going to cost more force?

It's going to be either of these 2 temps. So any more thoughts are welcome





I meant AI as in the artificial intelligence.To me it seems like the new AI doesn't domuch more than make a fight last longer. As in if it took me 1 minute to kill a CL81 Elite mob it now takes 1 and a half or more; you miss more, AB doesnt hit as often...the end result of a prolonged fight is more force used. Add that to the Mobs hitting harder eating more force with FA and the fact that allot of Jedi have higher FC sabers



I would say that the top benefit of Defender is the free of FC armor. Avoid incapis kinda pointless nowa AB resist power would be better IMO. Admitedly your dumping allot of points for 7k armor but you also get state defence valor, and Aura along the way,


Message Edited by SVX007 on 10-28-2005 01:54 PM




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Heltain
Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:02 pm
#21

/bump

Thank you guys for the more input.

I will most likey be doing more PVE than PVP. Most likely the most PVP I'll be doing is when a BH comes after me. I'm still fighting with the 2 though option 2 gives me force speed, but eats more force. Option 1 is good with force, but doesn't have heal 4 nor speed. So I'm really torn.
RebelArchAngel
Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:27 pm
#22

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MPowers/TKM/Heler 4xxx



or Darth Dabbler



LS 4x4x/Powers 44xx/ Enh 4x4/ Def 4x4x/ Healer 4xxx



i liek these two, just thought id give suggesttions





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zKaolin
Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:09 pm
#23


I would stray away from the duel mastery combo, for you are missing out on some vital skills. The 2nd option would work better, but I have found a variation of that template is best.


MLS / Def 4440 / Healer 4000 / Enh 3002


By adding the extra line in defender and subtracting the force armor line you are getting more innate armor (armor in which you don't have to activate anything for). It is also much less force intensive and you get the ranged defense tree which will help against bounty hunters.


As a new Jedi that most likely wont have the best saber you will want force speed from enhancer. Force run / root are also a way to escape a fight.





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impcrusher123
Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:10 pm
#24

i say 1 bcuz thats what im goen



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Heltain
Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:07 am
#25

/bump

RebelArchAngel, thanks for the input. Always welcome. I do think I'll be doing one of the orginal 2:

MDEF/MLS/3000 heal/0002 enh
or
MLS/4040 Def/4000 heal/ 3402 enh

I still appreciate any additional thoughts or suggestions people would like to give. Anything is welcome. Again I will most likley be doing PVE. The most PVP will be when BH's come after me.

I'm just curious for others thoughts on it.

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Heltain
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:19 am
#26

/bump

Thanks guys. Anyone else?
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