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Thread: Is mLS, mDefender, Enh 0404 possible
Hiya J-J,
That template might work very well in mass PvP situations, and also in grouped PvE situations (like the DWB to name a random example 
). That's because if you can get some healing support, you are the ultimate tank. I think you'd have no trouble against other non-jedi players one on one as well (bounty hunters most of the time simply won't be able to do enough damage to you before you kill them).
However, in solo PvE situations, and JvJ, I think the healing is a problem. I tried a template that was almost identical to this (MLS, MDEF, no healing) during the week of the post-CU respec, and I found that I had big problems with extended PvE/PvP situtations because even with Ruby Bliel, you simply couldn't heal fast enough.
Also, as I understand it, you can't use stims when you are knocked down (I could be wrong on this since it keeps changing), so this might be a vulnerable point for you.
I've found that just having 2000 healer makes a massive difference to my durability - having that 1k heal every few seconds plus the Stims and Bliels really seems to tip the scales...
Ganaster wrote:Hiya J-J,
That template might work very well in mass PvP situations, and also in grouped PvE situations (like the DWB to name a random example
However, in solo PvE situations, and JvJ, I think the healing is a problem. I tried a template that was almost identical to this (MLS, MDEF, no healing) during the week of the post-CU respec, and I found that I had big problems with extended PvE/PvP situtations because even with Ruby Bliel, you simply couldn't heal fast enough.
Also, as I understand it, you can't use stims when you are knocked down (I could be wrong on this since it keeps changing), so this might be a vulnerable point for you.
I've found that just having 2000 healer makes a massive difference to my durability - having that 1k heal every few seconds plus the Stims and Bliels really seems to tip the scales...
Just my 2 creds
you can heal while KD with stims
lucky enough a lot of players don't know about it.. more than anything a lot of bh don't know about it. but in anycase....J-J i think that someone above said it... 1 on 1 against most regular professions you should be fine with just the stims and ruby (except against melee with uber PH's) since they hit as hard or harder than most jedi. Range will have trouble both hitting you and doing enough dmg to you when they hit.. but force armor will drain you quite a bit if they are big hitters, so you might want to keep a holo close. jedi vs jedi you will probably be in trouble specially against the really good sabers as i think you will have to be using AI quite a bit. In large scale pvp you will want to have healers close by preferably non jedi ones since they can heal better and faster than us.
but anyways if you decide to go with that template, hit me up in game once you are done with it if you want to practice in duels and stuff.. i'll gladly help you out even if you are imp
hope this helps
enjoy
yeah really think youll struggle mate - to put it bluntly you would be better off getting 3xxx healer and xxx2 enhancer - force armour really wont make as much difference to you as improved infusion will - imp infusion effectivly heals you for 400 points every 4 secs at minimal force cost - there is no way the extra 9% resists from force armour will mitigate that much - and without healer if your ABken your in real bad trouble..
for the record my temp (nearly finished) is
x4x4 sabers (I like you am pretty much capped on CA's dont notice the damage diff from this to master sabers)
414x healer
xx4x defender
x4xx powers
44x3 enhancer
i have all the toys and with a health buff crystal up i can still stand there and let a BH try to take me down... (even with a weapon i sold him ) and after 10 mins im still full force bar.. he got a bit miffed - however the main reason for this was the INFUSION macro - he just couldnt outdamage it
Kurtisclip wrote:
You need healer if you're going to PVE and PVP. It's that simple.
no you don't.
My friend is MLS, M enhancer and defender 4x4x. He haven't lost to a bh yet and when I hunt whit him he do very well.
But I wouldn't have gone MLS, M defender and x4x4 enhancer though!
CURBhater wrote:
Imp.infusion doesnt heal 400per tick,its 240
Sidalo wrote:
CURBhater wrote:
Imp.infusion doesnt heal 400per tick,its 240
Thought it was 250 per 4 second tick
either way - its very useful...
Lolindir wrote:
paolo_ikro wrote:
Lolindir wrote:
Kurtisclip wrote:
You need healer if you're going to PVE and PVP. It's that simple.
no you don't.
My friend is MLS, M enhancer and defender 4x4x. He haven't lost to a bh yet and when I hunt whit him he do very well.
But I wouldn't have gone MLS, M defender and x4x4 enhancer though!
That looks like a lot of fun
oh he have a lot of fun. i wish i was brave enough to take the temp myself.
The more I look at this the more I am tempted to do it. I'm currently MLS/ME/H4040, with 4mil xp stored, and I am considering making the change, I mean I only actually need 6.02 mil i think to do this.
paolo_ikro wrote:
Lolindir wrote:
Kurtisclip wrote:
You need healer if you're going to PVE and PVP. It's that simple.
no you don't.
My friend is MLS, M enhancer and defender 4x4x. He haven't lost to a bh yet and when I hunt whit him he do very well.
But I wouldn't have gone MLS, M defender and x4x4 enhancer though!
That looks like a lot of fun
oh he have a lot of fun. i wish i was brave enough to take the temp myself.
HanzoShinobi wrote:
mls/ 4402 enhance 4000 healer and 3040 defender is the best temp that I have used. Has everything a pvping jedi needs.
thats not bad, but i like the duble master temp. so im mls, m enhancer and healer 4x4x