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Thread: MDefender or MLS

KJFett3
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:03 pm
#14




Don_T_Shoot wrote:
Enhancer 4xxx has Improved Supression. Check the in-game skill sheet. It's tempting to have a better root, but you are right, FR2 seems like it would do you more harm than good.



Hmm..I Kodan's Prof Calc never let me down before so I never bothered to double check it. Can I fire them or something?



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Philosofikal
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:09 pm
#15




Philosofikal wrote:
is force armorgood to combine with 4x4x in defender for defenses? So I wuld have MLS/ Def 4x4x/ Enhancer 34x2/Healer 4xxx. How's that for defenses for pve and pvp? And should be good speed/accuracy.




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Kurtisclip
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:27 pm
#16

MasterSheep wrote:

MasterMith wrote:

Kurtisclip wrote:
You could try LS 0444, Mdef, Enhance 3002, and Heal 4000.
or
MLS, 2 branches in Defender, heal 4000, and enhance 3402
or
MLS, Def 0444, heal 4000, enhance 3002

I took the first template myself and rarely have any trouble beating anyone in PVP or PVE. Unless MLS is going to be improved, I havn't really seen the need for it as long as your able to get some accuracy attachments.


What advantage do you gain with the DB column?



a little gen melee accy and area attacks..




I mainly still have it because of my Pre-CU saber being a double blade, but I like having two main attacks as well, being head-hit and leg-hit, coupled with AB. Now that I think about it I guess I could use a two-hand and alternate between head hit and saber throw, but oh well. I've had this template since the CU and I enjoy it. So like I said, unless MLS gets a considerable boost, I seem to do fine with 3 lines. Maybe in the future I'll dump a line for force armor 2. /shrug
Silas101
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:33 pm
#17
MLS, 34x2 Enh, 4x4x Def, 4xxx Heal......FTW!!!!!




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zKaolin
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:37 pm
#18

MLS , Def 4440 , Healer 4000, Enh 3002



Could damage output with mls, high innate armor with the 3 trees in defender / aura, 1500 heals, force speed and channel.



I have yet to be beat by a BH with this template.






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imhigh2
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:44 pm
#19




Kurtisclip wrote:




MasterSheep wrote:





MasterMith wrote:




Kurtisclip wrote:
You could try LS 0444, Mdef, Enhance 3002, and Heal 4000.
or
MLS, 2 branches in Defender, heal 4000, and enhance 3402
or
MLS, Def 0444, heal 4000, enhance 3002

I took the first template myself and rarely have any trouble beating anyone in PVP or PVE. Unless MLS is going to be improved, I havn't really seen the need for it as long as your able to get some accuracy attachments.




What advantage do you gain with the DB column?









a little gen melee accy and area attacks..






I mainly still have it because of my Pre-CU saber being a double blade, but I like having two main attacks as well, being head-hit and leg-hit, coupled with AB. Now that I think about it I guess I could use a two-hand and alternate between head hit and saber throw, but oh well. I've had this template since the CU and I enjoy it. So like I said, unless MLS gets a considerable boost, I seem to do fine with 3 lines. Maybe in the future I'll dump a line for force armor 2. /shrug




I'm in the same boat, but I actually love my temp. M def/ls 4404/ healer 4000/ enhancer 3002. I have a nice pre cu 1h saber, and I believe my modifieddps is 698. Now if I switch to mls mdef I'll loose root which i love and fr1 which I would miss. So I'm torn between what I really want to do, I changed my temp a bunch and found one I really like, for now though, The only other tree worth getting is force armor that I see.


note to the original poster* dont waiste sp on enhancer XXX4, cmon meditate is such a waiste, it's so slow. Eat some regen foods and /sit and CHANNEL , it's like 10 times faster than sitting there meditating. For what little it does I would way rather have healer x1xx, enhancer 4xxx healer 4xxx healer xx4x any of those would better.





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imhigh2
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:46 pm
#20




zKaolin wrote:

MLS , Def 4440 , Healer 4000, Enh 3002



Could damage output with mls, high innate armor with the 3 trees in defender / aura, 1500 heals, force speed and channel.



I have yet to be beat by a BH with this template.






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MasterMith
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:20 am
#21
Okay I am struggling with if I should continue with my current template or grind out some new skills. I want a good template that is hard to beat for BHs, and good for PVE.


I am currently and have some waste, but I do like having meditate and would healing.


Mdefender, LS 0404, Healing 4100, ENH 4004.


I have been thinking going, or should I go another route.


Def 4040, MLS, Healing 4100, Enh 4004



Thanks in advance.




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Hass1234567
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:22 am
#22
MLS, Heal 4xxx, Enh 44x4, Def xx4x



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Jacella
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:23 am
#23




MasterMith wrote:

Okay I am struggling with if I should continue with my current template or grind out some new skills. I want a good template that is hard to beat for BHs, and good for PVE.


I am currently and have some waste, but I do like having meditate and would healing.


Mdefender, LS 0404, Healing 4100, ENH 4004.


I have been thinking going, or should I go another route.


Def 4040, MLS, Healing 4100, Enh 4004



Thanks in advance.





either is fine, but enh 4xxx is a waste, Fr2 is a liability in pvp. enh xxx4 is a waste of time, meditate is too slow and Force Drain is mediocre.





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Kev0r
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:25 am
#24




MasterMith wrote:

MDefender or MLS




Both. If you're interested in fighting you don't need force run, don't need meditate and don't need cloak. An all out hard-ass template can have both master profs and not lose anything important like the dabblers do



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KJFett3
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:27 am
#25

If you are not going Master Enhancer, then the most you want in Enh is 3402. The middle of the road would be 3002 and the least would be 2000 or 0002. 4004 gives you FR2...not as fast as FR3 to get out and has a dmg reduction which is bad compared to FR1. Then there is the meditate. Sit down and use channel. Meditate is a waste....a laugh.


thats my opinion as a MEnh.





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Kurtisclip
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:30 am
#26
You could try LS 0444, Mdef, Enhance 3002, and Heal 4000.
or
MLS, 2 branches in Defender, heal 4000, and enhance 3402
or
MLS, Def 0444, heal 4000, enhance 3002

I took the first template myself and rarely have any trouble beating anyone in PVP or PVE. Unless MLS is going to be improved, I havn't really seen the need for it as long as your able to get some accuracy attachments.
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