Jedi Archive
Thread: Want to end the BH vs Jedi hate?
I am not wining about XP loss, but it does reduce alot of the fun. If there must be a penalty, then change it to something else. This is supposed to be for fun and not trying to ruin the enjoyment of other players like alot of BHers prefer. If it was truely about fun and skill, then the XP loss wouldn't matter to a BH.
Taduc wrote:Your missing the reason for it in the first place...You log in your BHer get your own mission collect the cash... sure its a little tougher with the new no name rules but you could sit your jedi next to the terms and sit and take missions till he turns red and bammo insta cash! they had to do something to keep people from farming their alts.
Yes, in old system. In new one, you have to generate enough viz to get on the terminals, then go thru countless missions to find yours. The amount of time involved in this wouldn't be worth it now. It would take several hours and in that time you could of made way more credits alot easier and more fun way.
In the new one, I don't see a logical reason to keep the XP loss. BHers claim it's to keep the Jedi population under control and keep them from advancing. Well, that's certainly not working, Jedi still advance and still do what they want to do. So what is the real reason for keeping it in game except for the BHers that like causing a player to loose XP?
MissMir wrote:
if there was no exp loss from bh kills, all jedi would go around waving their sabers about, i remember how bad it was before they added the group vis (was it pub 20?) now only the higher lv jedi go around waving sabers about. in some ways helps keep the visible jedi population in check, but doesnt help a whole lot though, still imo it needs to stay like that
Terran_Riik wrote:
Uhh I hunted jedi for that reason... To make their lives harder so they are discouraged from jedi.
QFE
See what I mean? It's only purpose is BH content to make some Jedi player miserable. I'm not whining about XP loss, I haven't been killed in 5 months. But XP loss in the current system is only a tool for a BH to cause grief to another player.
MissMir wrote:
if there was no exp loss from bh kills, all jedi would go around waving their sabers about, i remember how bad it was before they added the group vis (was it pub 20?) now only the higher lv jedi go around waving sabers about. in some ways helps keep the visible jedi population in check, but doesnt help a whole lot though, still imo it needs to stay like that
No, they still do it like idiots in starports. I saw a cl58 Jedi killing faction NPCs in Bestine starport last week. I wanted a BH to get him. Now Jedi with this kind of stupidty deserves special treatment IMHO. But the XP loss system I don't think is the way.
Orthell wrote:
Terran_Riik wrote:
Uhh I hunted jedi for that reason... To make their lives harder so they are discouraged from jedi.
QFE
See what I mean? It's only purpose is BH content to make some Jedi player miserable. I'm not whining about XP loss, I haven't been killed in 5 months. But XP loss in the current system is only a tool for a BH to cause grief to another player.
Maybe not a 'griefing tool' but definatelly something that should've been removed a long time ago. People still talk about risk, Jedi in hiding and so many other things, that as always are aimed to make the Jedi life according to what they think.
In a few words, all the players excpect Jedi to be a completelly separate game of Star Wars Galaxies, like something they have never experienced... well I hate to burts that bubble, but Jedi is pretty much a multy task tool professionin this game, nothing more. We are a combat class, instead of being able to be a politician class (Galaxy diplomatics), a helper class, etc. There are no real Jedi powers that could be different from the rest... Cloak? Is just a rifleman Improved cover, since you can move, but thats it. Force Heal, aka Bacta shot that doesnt have a +healing modiffier and takes up from 3 pools instead of 2 (mind costs are higher too), force run? More like Improved burst run, all the enhancing tree? Is just a mix of combat medic and doctor, nothing new. I think that Avoid Incapacitation is the only true unique skill, the rest are just copy pastes/renames of other professions' code.
So are we trully 'Jedi'? Are we trully the ultimate fighting class? Are we the only profession that deserves to be punished for playing the game?
c0kes wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Remove people who whine about xp loss from the game and we would all be happy.
Yeah, but I would want my money back in that case.
I'll be happy to refund your money... send me a PM! You'll have to forfit your account to me tho.
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c0kes wrote:
Orthell wrote:
Terran_Riik wrote:
Uhh I hunted jedi for that reason... To make their lives harder so they are discouraged from jedi.
QFE
See what I mean? It's only purpose is BH content to make some Jedi player miserable. I'm not whining about XP loss, I haven't been killed in 5 months. But XP loss in the current system is only a tool for a BH to cause grief to another player.
Maybe not a 'griefing tool' but definatelly something that should've been removed a long time ago. People still talk about risk, Jedi in hiding and so many other things, that as always are aimed to make the Jedi life according to what they think.In a few words, all the players excpect Jedi to be a completelly separate game of Star Wars Galaxies, like something they have never experienced... well I hate to burts that bubble, but Jedi is pretty much a multy task tool profession in this game, nothing more. We are a combat class, instead of being able to be a politician class (Galaxy diplomatics), a helper class, etc. There are no real Jedi powers that could be different from the rest... Cloak? Is just a rifleman Improved cover, since you can move, but thats it. Force Heal, aka Bacta shot that doesnt have a +healing modiffier and takes up from 3 pools instead of 2 (mind costs are higher too), force run? More like Improved burst run, all the enhancing tree? Is just a mix of combat medic and doctor, nothing new. I think that Avoid Incapacitation is the only true unique skill, the rest are just copy pastes/renames of other professions' code.
So are we trully 'Jedi'? Are we trully the ultimate fighting class? Are we the only profession that deserves to be punished for playing the game?
Now that is the problem, how to make Jedi not show off as much as they do now. I admit, it was sort of interesting having to hide before I was a full template. So there should be risk, but the current system isn't the solution.
lol
They hunt us. We know it.
They get credits. We lose xp. Unless that is, we learn the ropes and beat them.
Get the eff over that. If you can't handle it...don't be one of us.
I'm happy and glad there is a penalty. I learned a lot about pvp and being Jedi as I did my grind. Now that that is done...I use those tools to win way more than I lose.
TKA-MC wrote:
I agree with the passion that people put into the game. But please, your animosity is misplaced. Jedi Vs BH is the End content of the game! BH's have been equiped with the skills, when used properly, to take down a Jedi. Jedi once they acquire thier preferred skills and learn them well should be able to beat the BH 10/10 basis. But since there are bugs....and probably always will be that off-set's the balance between the two OF COURSE we are frustrated. We are the Jedi, we have spent uncountable hours just trying to unlock, and MORE uncountable hours grinding to finish our templates. But the rest of the game need's love too. We are at a stand still right now, before we get anything the rest of the game should be fixed. We are supposed to be 1.5X's stronger no? The best way for a true, effective, complete balancing can happen when the rest of the game is balance appropriately as well. These are just my thoughts. I am frustrated like the rest of you. I have realized and getting angrier and spaming hate when I was a Commando will never solve the issue and just escalate's my anger when I see nothing done. Patience is truly a virtue......but I'm going to be a Dark Jedi anyways....
Liani wrote:
lol
They hunt us. We know it.
They get credits. We lose xp. Unless that is, we learn the ropes and beat them.
Get the eff over that. If you can't handle it...don't be one of us.
I'm happy and glad there is a penalty. I learned a lot about pvp and being Jedi as I did my grind. Now that that is done...I use those tools to win way more than I lose.