Jedi Archive
Thread: TO ALL PRE-CU JEDI,WHO SAY NO TO PREMIUMS!!!!!
Eskie
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:44 am
#14
Ryle80 wrote:
Now, im a pre-cu jedi with a very nice saber and i want the better pearls to drop again. However there are a few things i would like to point out. Currently krayts are easily soloable in a few mins per kill, as well as being pretty easy to find. I had to kill over 1000 krayts (no joke) to get a saber as nice as my current. To solo a giant krayt pre-cu would take 25 odd mins on my swordsman, or about 2 mins with 2 or 3 other jedi with a tank (that raised the problem of the pearls being split between the group). So my major issue is that krayts are too easy to kill and so introducing the exact same drop rates would be unfair.
I agree with you here - the drop rate of pearls over time should be the same, which implies a lower drop chance on krayts or a higher CL on krayts.
gera
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:52 am
#15
Eskie wrote:
Ryle80 wrote:
Now, im a pre-cu jedi with a very nice saber and i want the better pearls to drop again. However there are a few things i would like to point out. Currently krayts are easily soloable in a few mins per kill, as well as being pretty easy to find. I had to kill over 1000 krayts (no joke) to get a saber as nice as my current. To solo a giant krayt pre-cu would take 25 odd mins on my swordsman, or about 2 mins with 2 or 3 other jedi with a tank (that raised the problem of the pearls being split between the group). So my major issue is that krayts are too easy to kill and so introducing the exact same drop rates would be unfair.
I agree with you here - the drop rate of pearls over time should be the same, which implies a lower drop chance on krayts or a higher CL on krayts.
Noone asking for exact same drop rates, however...
PRE-CU, I can lootQuality Pearls from Juveniles which takes 2 minutes to kill with my swordsman. I was not after Flawless because Premiums was enough, so giant krayt taking 25 odd minutes? Weird, not more than 15 minutes for me with my swordsmanbeside I was not getting harmed at all. Because I knew it hits "same constant" regardless level, and my 90% kinetic armor already blocking tons.
jalexu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:57 am
#16
You people crave for prems like it's the answer for everything you ever wanted. Premiums are not guaranteed to give you a good tune, although they do have a higher chance than the others. I can only speak for myself, when I say I'vegone through a lot before I gotsome decent tunes. This will be even harder post-CU since I doubt they modified the tuning system and now there's a random number up to 120, as opposed to 50 pre-CU.When they'll be in game again and uber-rare, lemme ask you, will you rather pay 25-30 mil for a premium (you'll need 4, remember)or 25-30 "good' ones ?
DaNumpty
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:14 am
#17
Im pre-cu, and there is nothing I'd like more than to see premiums that tune to something worth while back in the game. Not every pre-cu Jedi is a selfish blank. And Ive never called on DEV's to nerf a Jedi ability either.
Durzel
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:47 am
#18
Tribones wrote:
agreed. turn drops back on. joke's over, its been 4 months now. Time to get back to normal.
(paid 3mil each for some qualities the other day, crap tunes of course.. sigh maybe i can spend 20mil on a premium and get another crap tune!)
Tribones, you paid 3mil for "quality" crystals?
Saipion
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:55 am
#19
Fact is SOE are always finding new ways to mess stuff up, and we're always finding ways to clean up from their mistakes, if they really thought that pre CU krayts wouldnt be farmed to hell then they must of been stupid, now theyre saying it shouldnt of been that easy to get pearls, just like one minute they make mabari belts into clothing, then change their mind - new jedi are suffering at the hands of yet another fickle decision
MiniveNyla
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:04 am
#20
Anakroid wrote:
I'm almost ashamed to be a Jedi.
Pre-CU Jedi: Let us be the uber class, screw pearl drops!
Post-CU Jedi: Screw Pre-CU Jedi, nerf them!!!
For Christ's sake, we should be working WITH each other, not against.
If you care to read the post u would see that what post-CU jedi is asking for is a chance to get the pearls pre-CU jedi had. We are NOT, and I repeat NOT, asking for a nerf of the pearls already out there.
MiniveNyla
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:07 am
#21
Ryle80 wrote:
Now, im a pre-cu jedi with a very nice saber and i want the better pearls to drop again. However there are a few things i would like to point out. Currently krayts are easily soloable in a few mins per kill, as well as being pretty easy to find. I had to kill over 1000 krayts (no joke) to get a saber as nice as my current. To solo a giant krayt pre-cu would take 25 odd mins on my swordsman, or about 2 mins with 2 or 3 other jedi with a tank (that raised the problem of the pearls being split between the group). So my major issue is that krayts are too easy to kill and so introducing the exact same drop rates would be unfair.
No, it would not. Then EVERYONE would have the same chance of getting those pearls. Note, I am not arguing that the drop rate should be the same, just pointing out that it would not be unfair.
Cphyr
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:07 am
#22
I understand where your coming from but I really tried to help and create positive threads with good discussions to the balance of all and i just got so much negativety from other Jedi it really does not help inspire you
Durzel
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:12 am
#23
MiniveNyla wrote:
Anakroid wrote:
I'm almost ashamed to be a Jedi.Pre-CU Jedi: Let us be the uber class, screw pearl drops!Post-CU Jedi: Screw Pre-CU Jedi, nerf them!!!For Christ's sake, we should be working WITH each other, not against.
If you care to read the post u would see that what post-CU jedi is asking for is a chance to get the pearls pre-CU jedi had. We are NOT, and I repeat NOT, asking for a nerf of the pearls already out there.
Tiggs has pretty much said that isn't going to happen though, which leaves us (the Jedi class) with two alternatives:
1) Nothing gets done. Pre-CU Jedi are artificially stronger than Post-CU by virtue of drops that no longer exist (Premium/Flawless pearls) and crafting differences that meant SAC costs are a lot lower on pre-CU crafter sabres.
2) Premium/Flawless pearls of old get nerfed - making pre-CU Jedi the same strength as post-CU with their "good" pearls.
Option 2) still leaves us with the problem that Jedi are by no means the strongest DPS profession in the game, and option 1) will just result in more and more threads like this.
Durzel
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:14 am
#24
Cphyr wrote:
I understand where your coming from but I really tried to help and create positive threads with good discussions to the balance of all and i just got so much negativety from other Jedi it really does not help inspire you
Like your non-armor Mabari Armorweave Belt thread you mean?
How does something like that benefit anyone besides the stinking rich who exploited an unfixed bug in the system? (Different discussion I know, but hey)
Ryle80
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:15 am
#25
MiniveNyla wrote:
Ryle80 wrote:
Now, im a pre-cu jedi with a very nice saber and i want the better pearls to drop again. However there are a few things i would like to point out. Currently krayts are easily soloable in a few mins per kill, as well as being pretty easy to find. I had to kill over 1000 krayts (no joke) to get a saber as nice as my current. To solo a giant krayt pre-cu would take 25 odd mins on my swordsman, or about 2 mins with 2 or 3 other jedi with a tank (that raised the problem of the pearls being split between the group). So my major issue is that krayts are too easy to kill and so introducing the exact same drop rates would be unfair.
No, it would not. Then EVERYONE would have the same chance of getting those pearls. Note, I am not arguing that the drop rate should be the same, just pointing out that it would not be unfair.
By that very same point of view, everyone had the same chance to gain pearls pre-cu, so moaning about not having the same pearls pre-cu jedi have is kinda silly. As i said, im all for the prems dropping again, but i would say a 50% or so less drop rate would make creating a perfect saber attainable while not making it into a cake-walk.
Ryle80
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:18 am
#26
Durzel wrote:
MiniveNyla wrote:
Anakroid wrote:
I'm almost ashamed to be a Jedi.Pre-CU Jedi: Let us be the uber class, screw pearl drops!Post-CU Jedi: Screw Pre-CU Jedi, nerf them!!!For Christ's sake, we should be working WITH each other, not against.
If you care to read the post u would see that what post-CU jedi is asking for is a chance to get the pearls pre-CU jedi had. We are NOT, and I repeat NOT, asking for a nerf of the pearls already out there.
Tiggs has pretty much said that isn't going to happen though, which leaves us (the Jedi class) with two alternatives:
1) Nothing gets done. Pre-CU Jedi are artificially stronger than Post-CU by virtue of drops that no longer exist (Premium/Flawless pearls) and crafting differences that meant SAC costs are a lot lower on pre-CU crafter sabres.
2) Premium/Flawless pearls of old get nerfed - making pre-CU Jedi the same strength as post-CU with their "good" pearls.
Option 2) still leaves us with the problem that Jedi are by no means the strongest DPS profession in the game, and option 1) will just result in more and more threads like this.
Pre-cu sabers do not have a lower sac, they all converted to 100, while i have crafted 95 sac sabers post-cu.
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-01-2005 12:19 PM