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Thread: possible issue? /duel

SidRoc-
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:15 am
#14


For those of you believing I exploited understand. It is working as intended for a move that paralyzes to break if damage is caused, a debuff does not cause any damage and therefore is not an exploit. Now the /duel exploit used to be alot different. Back in the day the /duel exploit is where a bh could /duel a jedi before fighitng him and the jedi could not attack back. This was fixed quickly becuase it was overly game breaking and gave the jedi no chance. To fix this they changed the way duels between a bh and jedi work. Becuase of this change they unknowingly gave the jedi a way to find out if a bh has his mission. Abusing the /duel is using a bugged system to your advantage. Whitch is a exploit.



I just realised what you are saying, So youve just accidently told me a workaround to the /duel exploit.... If I stay on my bike it doesnt work.....interesting will rememeber this...poor ahazi jedi.

Message Edited by SidRoc- on 09-12-2005 01:18 AM



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SidRoc-
Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:41 pm
#15

lol the second incap mustve been one that lags and the heal goes through. Anyhow you where pretty good. Wishing I had money to adk my armor it sucks when olmost all jedis spam leghit and headhit on ya and then just those peices of armor crap out and you get hit for ALOT.



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SidRoc-
Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:45 pm
#16

for me this is real bad actually, I remmeber before this /duel exploit I came upon a group of jedi none of them knew whos mission I had and the jedis cautiously stopped grinding and prepared then realising they wouldnt be able to find one some of them would loose food or grind cautiously. I was able to pick a time even after they knew I was there that I was able to easily kill the jedi. It completly has detroyed my first strike. I cannot do this anymore. Also the cooldown exploit isnt technically an exploit if you know how it works it IS working as intented you just have to know what to do to get the effect. Hint ranged shot! So yes I guess I will learn from you and not call small things exploits, and next time we duel ill hit you once every second for that 600 dmg shot .





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c0kes
Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:51 pm
#17






DS_Hazz wrote:

I was told today something about using the /duel command against BH .. Is it a exploit? Can anyone give me details without getting in trouble? I want to make sure I dont give a BH a reason to report me is all, thanks.






I don't see how the /duel command on BH is an exploit. It were an exploit if we could avoid combat or get the first attack, but we only get a text saying "You cannot duel this person since it can attack you", its not like we get the instant win because of that.


Plus, Jedi always felt a disturbance in the force, I see no difference, we have to /duel a BH instead of running a Jedi specific command called "Force senses" (if it were existant),





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SidRoc-
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:22 am
#18

funny your acting like the devs intented that as a method of gameplay for jedi. Everytime a jedi does tihs to me I have started to turn on a macro that sends them 3 times a second or so tells like "Exploiter!" and so forth. And they get all but hurt about it, none of them relise them /dueling me is just as much of harrassment as that.



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frog169
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:30 am
#19

pre-cu bhs use to /duel the jedi and attack them... jedis couldnt attack back unless they did /duel.... then when the jedi accepted the bh could do /end and jedi still couldnt hit him... etc. i think they fixed it with the cu.. i could be wrong... why try figureing out if the bh is after u... get skills and let him attack when he wants..



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Angamarth
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:59 am
#20






SidRoc- wrote:


For those of you believing I exploited understand. It is working as intended for a move that paralyzes to break if damage is caused, a debuff does not cause any damage and therefore is not an exploit. Now the /duel exploit used to be alot different. Back in the day the /duel exploit is where a bh could /duel a jedi before fighitng him and the jedi could not attack back. This was fixed quickly becuase it was overly game breaking and gave the jedi no chance. To fix this they changed the way duels between a bh and jedi work. Becuase of this change they unknowingly gave the jedi a way to find out if a bh has his mission. Abusing the /duel is using a bugged system to your advantage. Whitch is a exploit.



I just realised what you are saying, So youve just accidently told me a workaround to the /duel exploit.... If I stay on my bike it doesnt work.....interesting will rememeber this...poor ahazi jedi.

Message Edited by SidRoc- on 09-12-2005 01:18 AM





Somantics. Personally, I feel that applying speed and action debuffs is very damaging, IMO they should count as attacks for the purpose of breaking a mez. It's a negative action taken against your character. So, I feel you are indeed abusing an oversight in the mez mechanics.


The /duel thing, on the other hand, is like a bounty hunter sticking your name on the friend list so they know when you log on. It's not called the 'target online status list', and if you're hunting me you sure aren't my friend. It's using a game mechanic to provide information that is not necessarily what the mechanic is set up to do. Not to mention, the ability to use /duel to tell if someone has your mission is a direct result of bounty hunter abuse of the command in the first place... I will welcome the /duel'you can't attack' being removedwhen the friend list requires friending on both sides to show online status.





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Chris-DaMan
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:16 pm
#21






SidRoc- wrote:

.....So yes I guess I will learn from you and not call small things exploits, and next time we duel ill hit you once every second for that 600 dmg shot .








uh not good not good lol but ill only believe that when i see it
Chris-DaMan
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:19 pm
#22

oh and one more thing. as you have probably seen most of the time im actually up for a duel. but if we should duel again and i should incap you again and it says you cannot end duel, then........... LOL
Eleutherios
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:27 pm
#23

Goddamn, Jedi just can't stop the exploiting.



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abbink
Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:38 pm
#24



Eleutherios wrote:
Goddamn, Jedi just can't stop the exploiting.




As long as you pit two groups against each other players will always find a way to exploit any loop hole they can find. Both sides do it to no end now and no matter what changes SOE introduces someone will find a loop whole to expoit. lol






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Wosa
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:26 pm
#25

There was like a week of non stop whinning about this on the BH forums.. Been Like this for a while.




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Eleutherios
Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:35 pm
#26






abbink wrote:





Eleutherios wrote:

Goddamn, Jedi just can't stop the exploiting.




As long as you pit two groups against each other players will always find a way to exploit any loop hole they can find. Both sides do it to no end now and no matter what changes SOE introduces someone will find a loop whole to expoit. lol




Yeah, but damn... there are some people on these forums that make huge long posts trying to justify an exploit.



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