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Thread: So... When's the Jedi revamp?

EricAD
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:41 pm
#14






Ahazi_Shayd wrote:

Seems like every other proffession has been made into an elite combat class.. and with every patch the jedi's power has een extremely weakened to the point that we struggle to kill both ranged and melee proffessions wh each have better heals and better weaponry... and now unstoppable snare/root capabilities and 1 hit kill attacks...


I was never one to bicker about the jedi changes and I mostly adapted and rolled with the punches.. but I have weighed all possiblities and nothing really seems plausible except that instead of all the jedi hating.. they finally need some love again.. whether that be FRS or just being a simply more powerful class again I do not know... What I do know is that any person who took a weak to grind there temp teamed up with some1 who took another weak to grind SL can now take me down.. who took about 6 months from holo-grind to village to full temp.. in a matter of seconds.


I feel like I gotta beg like princess leia or somethin and say.. helpus devs.. it is our darkest hour and u are our only hope





seems like everything is balanced to me.

Message Edited by EricAD on 10-20-2005 07:41 PM




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Shikkari
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:42 pm
#15



xEPICx wrote:
It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.



Funny how all the BH's called FR the "I win button" or "get out of jail" button when it was actually a "you didnt win button"...if the jedi gets away from a BH its not a win for the Jedi and its not a loss for the BH..its a stalemate. BUT now that BH's have a real "I win button" with snare, they come here to say neener neener to the jedi LOL. Comparing snare to FR is apples and oranges. FR NEVER helped a jedi win against a BH unless it was to stall for time to regen etc, but if a jedi uses FR to flee and not engage how is that a win? Now on the other hand, with the new snares BH really do have an unbalanced offenseive attack/debuff but they would never call it the "I win button" since most are BH's just hypocrites and would be playing jedi if jedi didnt suck.







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Carryall
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:42 pm
#16


Er, whatever happened to free speech? Can the other side respond without a "Shut up"?Please make a rebuttal and don't be an ass.

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c0kes
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:43 pm
#17






Altyrell wrote:





Ahazi_Shayd wrote:

Seems like every other proffession has been made into an elite combat class.. and with every patch the jedi's power has een extremely weakened to the point that we struggle to kill both ranged and melee proffessions wh each have better heals and better weaponry... and now unstoppable snare/root capabilities and 1 hit kill attacks...


I was never one to bicker about the jedi changes and I mostly adapted and rolled with the punches.. but I have weighed all possiblities and nothing really seems plausible except that instead of all the jedi hating.. they finally need some love again.. whether that be FRS or just being a simply more powerful class again I do not know... What I do know is that any person who took a weak to grind there temp teamed up with some1 who took another weak to grind SL can now take me down.. who took about 6 months from holo-grind to village to full temp.. in a matter of seconds.


I feel like I gotta beg like princess leia or somethin and say.. helpus devs.. it is our darkest hour and u are our only hope





umm...... I play a Smuggler... and last time i saw, we have YET to even see any HOPE of getting a REVAMP.... we are fine with SL's/Comm's/Ranger's getting/seeing a REVAMP... but SMUGGLER's Haven't had 1 yet... so i think that the JEDI's who want a REVAMP, can wait till either the SMUGGLERS get their REVAMP, or untillTHE NEW FRS SYSTEM Comes..... which ever comes first





Yeah, and I play a Jedi, and unlike a Smuggler, Commando or any other profession that needs a revamp, I have to participate in a forced player versus player system (BH player bounties), and worse is that Im penalized from failing in such system. So I'm sorry, but if what you are looking for here is simpathy toward your cause, you will not find it here, because believe it or not Jedi is a big deal of this game. Im all into giving a smuggler or a commando a revamp, something new and improve their professions, BUT I'll put my Jedi character, wich took me a while to build, first.


So why not just let it go? Apparently SoE is thinking of releasing revamps soon anyway, we had the SL revamp (wich caused great trouble for our profession) yesterday, we are getting the ranger revamp really soon, and before you know it you will see a smuggler revamp there.


So make us all a favor (you and every other player coming here to tell us to stop being "selfish" and what not) and keep the "Other professions need more love than you!" lectures/whining/ranting/sentences to yourself.



I mean after all, we can't do anything to help you, just look how SoE ignore us as well, we all are in the same boat buddy, we all want changes, just that each person has a different goal. In our case make our profession better and more fun over all, just like yourself.


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Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:43 pm
#18




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HAY LEXIANA ALL THE JEDI ARE REAL SAD AND STUFF SO B CAREFUL WIT THERE EMOCIUNS





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Amiras
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:43 pm
#19

It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.


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typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.


Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.


Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.


No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.


And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.


Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.


Twilekku
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:43 pm
#20



Carryall wrote:
Er, whatever happened to free speech? Can the other side respond without a "Shut up"?Please make a rebuttal and don't be an ass.

Message Edited by Carryall on 10-20-2005 06:42 PM





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Heekae
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:46 pm
#21






Amiras wrote:

It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.


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* I group with SL's to keel over


typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.


Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.


Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.


No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.


And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.


Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.







typical idiot if you dont know dont talk she been jedi for longer than you,



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Eked
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:47 pm
#22






Heekae wrote:





Amiras wrote:

It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.


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~ Alena ~

Ubah MBH/MCM(grinded in less than a week)

* I group with SL's to keel over


typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.


Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.


Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.


No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.


And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.


Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.







typical idiot if you dont know dont talk she been jedi for longer than you,





she sounds like a noob to me.



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Twilekku
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:48 pm
#23



Eked wrote:


Heekae wrote:


Amiras wrote:
It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.

150)?150:this.scrollHeight)">
~ Alena ~
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* I group with SL's to keel over
typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.
Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.
Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.
No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.
And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.
Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.



typical idiot if you dont know dont talk she been jedi for longer than you,



shemale sounds like a noob to me.





fixed^^



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Heekae
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:49 pm
#24






Twilekku wrote:





Eked wrote:





Heekae wrote:





Amiras wrote:

It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.


150)?150:this.scrollHeight)">
~ Alena ~

Ubah MBH/MCM(grinded in less than a week)

* I group with SL's to keel over


typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.


Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.


Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.


No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.


And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.


Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.







typical idiot if you dont know dont talk she been jedi for longer than you,





shemale sounds like a noob to me.







fixed^^




lol another one if you dont know dont talk mr shemale.



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gRampz
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:49 pm
#25

Balance would be not getting 140 Jedi kills in the course of 2 days without the Jedi even fighting back.



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Eked
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:49 pm
#26






Eked wrote:





Heekae wrote:





Amiras wrote:

It's called "balance." You jedi want to insta-kill everyone with no risks.


150)?150:this.scrollHeight)">
~ Alena ~

Ubah MBH/MCM(grinded in less than a week)

* I group with SL's to keel over


typical BH noob. There were never more than a handful of BH in Star Wars history that could hunt and kill a Jedi. And most used explosions, or traps, but would never actually confront a jedi sqaure on, cause they couldnt win. Only mass numbers could take down a jedi and even then it was risky. And dont go quoting the EU books cause as Lucas has started a million times, the EU books have no reflection on actual star wars history, so just get over it already.


Jedi should be the elite class in the game hands down and should have an advantage above all classes. With that said, SOE needs to make it an actual challenge to become a Jedi. Risj now the Jedi Theme Park could be done by a blind 5 year old. Its just stupidly easy and needs a bad harsh revamp.


Jedi on average hit for the 3rd lowest damage of all professions and have the same speed and wind-up as any other profession and yet , still has no way to quickly regen force without using a holo ( which can only be done once a day ) while any other profession can sit and regen their mind in a matter of seconds.


No one is stating they want insta kills. But being an elite profession again is what Jedi should be and a BH should have to be perfect or near perfect to take down a full temp jedi. thats just how Star Wars is supposed to be, it should be that anyone noob with a respec can just temps and jump to the flavor of the month and bam, be uber.


And before you say it, i am not some noob jedi or ebay jedi, ive been a jedi for a long time now and not some push over. My pvp rating hovers around 1650 - 1700, and ive killed 46 of the 50 BH that have come for me. And my 4 BH losses all come from the same BH who just seems to have my number.


Balance is a word SOE doesnt understand and the game needs another massive overhaul cause its still reeling from the CU and hasnt recovered.







typical idiot if you dont know dont talk she been jedi for longer than you,





she sounds like a noob to me.





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