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Thread: Powers and SEA's

Phenix1050
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:29 am
#14






BladeWaker wrote:


Um well people brag about having 25+speed/accuracy gen spee 25+ /acc+25 and i still drop them as easy with or without the SEAS........I have access to 50+ speed 50+ accuracy, and i see no difference, this is after using them for a month...no difference at all..all it does is increase your dps...which does nothing aswell after 1 month testing in PvP




well I'm sorry, you can say that all you want. Tell you what I want. I want a screenshot of a combat log. Hit another person at least a thousand times.



The point here isn't that I believe you or the other guy. The point here is that if you want testing done, you are perfectly capable of gathering the numbers yourself. You insult people who simply give their opinion, then only give yours, with no proof. I'm critiquing your insistance that other people test without being willing to do so yourself. I'd call it hypocracy. If you require proof to believe somebody else, but fail to provide them with data to prove your point, then why should they bother trying to convince you?





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Eme
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:30 am
#15

have done often , breach works a treat now



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eternalfool
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:38 am
#16





BladeWaker wrote:







Eme wrote:

naked i miss quite often with bol mobswith area attacks, with accuracy at overcap of 313 using my gloves and shoes i hit every one every time, apart from 1 in say 20 ish..


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Bol mobs?



Try it against something with atleast +1 force defence





And when someone actually does offer evidence you ignore it, as i thought you would, please o wise one enlighten me as to why the target has to have force defence.


A test against a target with 0 force defence is a valid test as it shows optimum results, this is vital to find a mean average. While i would like a similar post about a MDEF therefore showing worst results to work out the average from; it is far fromrequisite to prove his point.


Also BladeWaker have you ever made a post that doesnt 'bash' something? I mean seriously.. all i see you doing is insulting people and how they play the game, grow up and shut up.




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felipz
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:16 am
#17

Naked and Ca'ed. On both screenshots the target had Center Of Being on.



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Aulendil
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:30 am
#18

We have been testing a lot of mods, the results are VERY disappointing...Funny how people are spending millions on mods which are totally broken.










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Atobe
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:25 am
#19





TeepoJedi wrote:

I hear only general ranged accuracy and force accuracy CA's work with powers? Can anyone confirm if general ranged speed works with powers and if it does not shouldn't we start some form of petition or add it to the list of "to do's"?





The one group that could tell us the facts is strangely silent on this issue. I wonder if it's because they don't want to acknowledge that force accuracy CA's and other related tapes don't work as advertised? Or, is it because they do work but don't actually do a helluva lot? (On a similar note: what the hell good does a "force power max +1" CA do? Plus one to max force power?! /sigh).


It would be really nice if the devs could state the facts on this once and for all, and ifJedi-related CA's aren't working when we might expect to see a fix.


/bonk self


What am I thinking? I forgot that we're talking about SOE here.



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Phenix1050
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:51 am
#20






felipz wrote:

Naked and Ca'ed. On both screenshots the target had Center Of Being on.





very interesting, actually. A damage increase of 16 points is actually a lotconsidering the implementation of the diminishing returns formula.The pre-armor figures appear to be a 21 point difference in damage. Now I'm curious how you changed your accuracy to a value greater that +50 in the second screenshot (215 to 267 is a 52 point increase, theoretically, that change should be capped at +50 with tapes). So assuming a 50 point difference in accuracy, you have 123% more accuracy in the second pic, and are doing about 103% of the damage.


Now considering the diminishing returns formula, I'd say that's actually a fairly good boost. I don't think Force accuracy and GRA tapes were meant to be the end-all, be-all of what determines the damage. They are simply a good boost on the competition. Assuming two equally skilled powers users with the same template, the person with the CAs would win, as they are doing 3-4% more damage on each attack. While this not seem like much, realize that this is cumulative. CA/AAs were not meant to be vastly powerful, this is why the diminishing returns was put into place.


In the end, attachments are meant to be ancillary to professions, only neccesary if you're interested in being the best of the best. Unlike pre-cu with the hard caps, there is now less and less power for each point over a certain number. This is to prevent the recurrence of everyone needing the ca/aa's to compete. Now, they help, but they aren't the most important part of combat, as before.



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BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
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