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Thread: DON'T CANCEL YOUR SWG SUBSCRIPTION , cancel a BHs snare instead with Rancor Aid

Motaswg
Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:11 am
#14


Did some preliminary testing of it the other morning


here is what i found



It did not cancel out the Electrolyte drain or Riflemans snare or Carbineer snare.. in otherwords, you are attacked and snared take rancor aid the snare is still there , does not wipe the snare.



What did it do then?


Once i had taken it , snares could not be applied for the duration , thats all snares , Rifleman snare , Carbineer snare and Electrolyte drain , the message was something along the lines of "you cannot put that effect on "playername""


so once taken you will be "immune" from snare effects for the duration , the actual message the person using the snare will see is "resisted"


the duration on the one i was using was around 1 minute 40 seconds give or take a few seconds , fill was around 17



the way it needs to be used , take it after you are attackedsicne it has such a short duration , if the attacker opens with a snare you will still have to eat the first snare and survive


Message Edited by Motaswg on 10-22-2005 04:13 AM



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mero909
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:08 am
#15

My Jedi is sittin' in my house and watching CSI reruns until they decide to give us some FRS. I care less about BHs...I win 99% of those anyway, but constant PvP doesn't scream FUN to me or "content" for that matter. I'll wait for the FRS. In the mean time, my BH can have fun!




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MajesticJester
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:22 am
#16

dont tell me another thread has got back to the pre-9 - post 9 rubbish lol
wildcat84
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:24 am
#17

Rancor Aid does not remove any snare. It MIGHT prevent one, but I've had reports of it not working at all.

Also, I think it's ridiculous that the filling is high (15) and the duration is short (<2Min) particularly when there are snares that last far longer than it.



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TonieStark
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:19 am
#18






Broom wrote:





TonieStark wrote:





How come no one is talking about Rancor Aid? Am I missing something? 14 filling and gives you a minute to get away or pound the BH then rinse and repeat. Manage your stomach and the drink and you should be ok in the fight. It cancels out the effects of snare.






You seem to have missed the fact that Rancor's aid only helps against Electrolyte drain, not against any of the other roots and snares.


You also seem to have missed the fact that snares and roots can be stacked.


Linna






The other sanres last 15 seconds ED is the only one of consequence! Also if you can not survive the first ED snare what are you doing being a Jedi?




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Broom
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:39 am
#19






TonieStark wrote:





Broom wrote:





TonieStark wrote:





How come no one is talking about Rancor Aid? Am I missing something? 14 filling and gives you a minute to get away or pound the BH then rinse and repeat. Manage your stomach and the drink and you should be ok in the fight. It cancels out the effects of snare.






You seem to have missed the fact that Rancor's aid only helps against Electrolyte drain, not against any of the other roots and snares.


You also seem to have missed the fact that snares and roots can be stacked.


Linna






The other sanres last 15 seconds ED is the only one of consequence! Also if you can not survive the first ED snare what are you doing being a Jedi?






Really? Geesh, and here's me getting stuck nearly one minute by concussion shot... tell me, have you ever run into Pistoleer / Smuggler / Commando / CM templates? They are out there. Can keep you rooted almost indefinitely in PVP. As can some of the more creative BH templates.


PVP first, make stupid comments later. Get snared for 30 minutes back to back, or try engaging a BH with an SL bot. What fun. I can guarantee your force is going to run out some time.


Linna



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Pday
Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:54 am
#20






Broom wrote:






TonieStark wrote:





Broom wrote:





TonieStark wrote:





How come no one is talking about Rancor Aid? Am I missing something? 14 filling and gives you a minute to get away or pound the BH then rinse and repeat. Manage your stomach and the drink and you should be ok in the fight. It cancels out the effects of snare.






You seem to have missed the fact that Rancor's aid only helps against Electrolyte drain, not against any of the other roots and snares.


You also seem to have missed the fact that snares and roots can be stacked.


Linna






The other sanres last 15 seconds ED is the only one of consequence! Also if you can not survive the first ED snare what are you doing being a Jedi?






Really? Geesh, and here's me getting stuck nearly one minute by concussion shot... tell me, have you ever run into Pistoleer / Smuggler / Commando / CM templates? They are out there. Can keep you rooted almost indefinitely in PVP. As can some of the more creative BH templates.


PVP first, make stupid comments later. Get snared for 30 minutes back to back, or try engaging a BH with an SL bot. What fun. I can guarantee your force is going to run out some time.


Linna




have to remember tonie's jedi has avoid incap, fr2 and cloak




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jonstraf
Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:10 am
#21



TonieStark wrote:


Broom wrote:


TonieStark wrote:
How come no one is talking about Rancor Aid? Am I missing something? 14 filling and gives you a minute to get away or pound the BH then rinse and repeat. Manage your stomach and the drink and you should be ok in the fight. It cancels out the effects of snare.


You seem to have missed the fact that Rancor's aid only helps against Electrolyte drain, not against any of the other roots and snares.

You also seem to have missed the fact that snares and roots can be stacked.

Linna



The other sanres last 15 seconds ED is the only one of consequence! Also if you can not survive the first ED snare what are you doing being a Jedi?





You forget that snares can easily be slapped on back to back. Not to mention, if the BH is a rifleman he will have 65 meters+ on you by the time the snare ends. Also, if he has a root or a knockdown, those are backups in case the snare misses. Obviously you haven't thought about the plentiful amount of other skills that can be used, just in case that 10% chance of them missing happens.



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Alejandro
Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:36 am
#22


So what does rancor aid appear under on the galaxy bazaar vendor search? I looked under misc, where food and drinks are listed an did not see any category forRancor Aid.


And what lina was saying about fighting for 30mins with back to back snares from a bhdefinitely feels way off balance. It's crazy how they canstack the snares and reapply.That, coupled with lowering our combat speed as mcm's can is severely crippling. It's bad enough to beforced into a fight and not be able toescape, but if I can't fight back then that's where I draw the line.

It takes us forever to get close enough to hit themand the mcm's have our attack speed severely slowed so that once we get within range we can't do enough damage to take them down. Anybody have any techniques that work well against this type of snare + lowered combat speed situation?



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TonieStark
Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:44 am
#23

I was snared the entire time in this battle and got the DB, it took 40 minutes and some creative use of terrain and creatures, I won't even adress the comments of me not knowing how to PvP because they don't merit a response (and you can check the rating in the pic)
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TonieStark
Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:00 pm
#24






qyxin wrote:
Used it. Cancelled the BH current snare and the BH just put another on me right after.





It should have lasted the duration of the drink (I have1 minute ones).



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KeeferKman
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:35 pm
#25






Alejandro wrote:


So what does rancor aid appear under on the galaxy bazaar vendor search? I looked under misc, where food and drinks are listed an did not see any category forRancor Aid.


And what lina was saying about fighting for 30mins with back to back snares from a bhdefinitely feels way off balance. It's crazy how they canstack the snares and reapply.That, coupled with lowering our combat speed as mcm's can is severely crippling. It's bad enough to beforced into a fight and not be able toescape, but if I can't fight back then that's where I draw the line.

It takes us forever to get close enough to hit themand the mcm's have our attack speed severely slowed so that once we get within range we can't do enough damage to take them down. Anybody have any techniques that work well against this type of snare + lowered combat speed situation?





I just bought some earlier today (one crate for 80k). I found some on Corelia (vendor search), and there was also some individual bottles of 20 uses for 20k on Dantoine (bazaar search)...under misc, entire galaxie, rancor aid... so you seem to have been on the right track





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Edda_Gast
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:45 pm
#26


I unlocked between publish 7 and 8, and again between publish 23 and 24 on two different accounts (i quit the game awhile back).


All of my original grind was done AFK at POI's, or in cantina's, or next to my artisan trainer. It was ridiculously easy.I loved it.

The second time through, i couldnt do any AFK because static spawns were gone. The Wookiee trails had been nerfed. Everything was done at the keyboard in groups. I hate it



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