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Thread: How Many Vets Will Quit If Their Pearls Get Nerfed?

jedibd
Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:48 pm
#118


Holocron grinding was a joke and you know it. The current Jedi system is much harder and time intensive.(???????) I've done both so don't try to convince me. Most crafting professions were done AFK.(maybe by you)A good amount of the combat was done the same way.(again maybe by you)The same was true of jedi XP earned.(Againplease state where the wide spreadJedi afk grinding was going on)Now a few weeks of double XP is an exception but with the current combat conversionit feels hopeless grinding a jedi.



You forgot to mention that currently theres no xp loss for PvE deaths,BH cant pull your name,Buffs arent required which greatly cuts back on down time.Grouping doesnt give Vis.



So you are on your second Jedi since you worked in both systems?


I have absolutely nothing against Post CU Jedi but its the ones that come forward with an arrogant attitude and speading falsehoods that turn my stomach.


Falsehoods


"oh you guys could wear armor"

"Oh you guys had uber buffs"

"oh you had 5000000000 max damage sabers that wiped out Krayts in one shot when you used auto attack"

"oh krayts were walking the streets dropping pearls like dung and you could just follow them and pick them up"


Some of the above are sarcastic but some of them are half truths ie: you had armor.Go ahead and tell those that dont know how the system worked at that time.THEN let them decide which system they prefer.


Start directing your anger at those in charge.Jedi have the strogest voice in the game if they would unite.Instead we have children not wanting anyone to be equal to them and others screaming to have everything and knocking the veterans,


I think you should have the same oportunity to loot pearls but you need to do it under a similar system.That means a 20-35 minutes to kill a Krayt.If a Jedi wanted to kil lthem he had to have a tank etc.


No matter what the crybabies say it was an incredible timesink to get your pearls.Ever wonder why many of us had multiple accounts?(reral world money spent on them) It was so we had Docs and entertainers nearby to apply buffs and rez us if necessary to save some of the xp loss.


Right now i can go out during commercials on TV and kill a Dragon and if I die,oh well.


Stop trying to convince yourselves how easy we had it and join us in pointing to SOE and saying "we deserve better than this"


As far as veterans who dont want anyone to reach their level,well they are children so remember that when dealing with them.But you arent going to walk in here and spout off and not get flamed to hell especially when you are spreading lies.


If we used some post CU logic then everyone would be getting Jedi CA's placed in there inventory just because some other Jedi has them and you didnt have time to go out and get them.Absolutely silly.


Again both sides had better pull there heads out of their fourth point of contact or they are going to find the profesion going the way of the Entertainers.





Message Edited by jedibd on 09-23-2005 01:50 PM



- I support keeping & balancing the original combat system You can too
One should not be envious of someone who has prospered by unjust deeds. Nor should he disdain someone who has fallen while adhering to the path of righteousness.
thepulse
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:10 pm
#119

hmmm let me get this... if ya nerf the pearls you upset the vet players who say they had it harder so its there right to have a great saber and they leave the game... gee like i never saw an old knight doing a template change on the trail,or changin template during double xp, or never using a respec nope just the purest of the pure..


then if ya dont nerf the pearls the demand for them will be so high on return of them tat will look like 1 big giant MO and every krayt will have fights over looting rights ect ect (who needs GCW at this point) guild vrs guild jedi vrs jedi and every prof cutting each others throat just to exploit a jedi (then everyone complains about ebay credits)


I will say the saber needs a pump up even a perfect saber isnt so perfect so a nerf would kinda suck but never having balance would suck even more so i think i would like to see something else happen that would change the game into complete choas more than it already is..


But just cause im so sick of the elitest thing with all these older jedi who think its a right and claim that every pre cu jedi is a afk trail grinder and should never be able to progress and feel that they alone should be the only ones to enjoy jedi.. I say NERF THE HELL OUT OF THEM i want to see these morons go im tired of them and there i am better than you outlook (cure the jedi over pop problem at the same time wich is there main complaint anyway) as for the older vet jedi who are good people i say sorry no disrespect and would hate to see you suffer but cutting this cancer outlook out of thejedi profis far more better then trying to keep them happy at least for the short term.. then after the idiots are gone then we can actually worry about what needs to be done with jedi cause face it they only want a free ride in FRS........not a fix to the jedi prof





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magneto2
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:16 pm
#120

its not that hard to accept....if u want a broke system keep it how it is....if u want to evolve, somehting need sto be changed...i u have a uber 700 DPS saber, im sure u still will have a uber saber if they change how it works


and all u guys who cry IM GONNA QUIT IM A VET before they even announce whats goin on, good ridance i say


all this is, is rumors and hear say






MaGnEtODark Jeedai "Carebear"
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jedibd
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:19 am
#121


Honestly the only thing that needs changed right now is them allowing Premiums to drop.They could do it if they wanted to but then why would everyone buy the nnew expansion



You know darn well THATS going to be the fix......you sending cash.



"your Pearls are safe,send $29.99 and we will release them unharmed"


Anyone that can't see that this was a calculated decision by SOE is blind or lives in a cave.How hard could it be to make one out of every 10-20 Giant/Ancient krayts drop a premium.Tuning will assist in keeping the higher damage weapons rare or at least make you spend a lot of time trying to acquire them.



And honestly I don't want to go through another conversion.Theres no reason for it.Once you compare our damage to others you see theres no reason we shouldnt be able to have stronger weapons.


I'm just hoping that SOE doesnt go PC like they have with the CU and make everyone equal because they don't want anyone feeling bad.Theskills and weapons are far too similar right now


Message Edited by jedibd on 09-24-2005 04:23 AM



- I support keeping & balancing the original combat system You can too
One should not be envious of someone who has prospered by unjust deeds. Nor should he disdain someone who has fallen while adhering to the path of righteousness.
enigma_writer
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:23 am
#122

I would favorof 2 things


1. Return of pearls to the game with the premium and flawless grade. Would give everyone ability to make the best sabers.


2. Fix Modified Damage to be based more on crafting and less on the pearls in the saber. Have crafting account for 75% of the DPS instead of the low level it is at now (%10-20)


TylerDarkman
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:29 am
#123






Phantom513 wrote:





triplejacko wrote:
I am already hanging onto this game by a string.

I'm curious how many of you will quit if the Devs decide to change sabers all together, or somehow devalue the quality of the pearls we have in our sabers now.


It seems to me, that having better sabers is part of our privilege for having walked a different path, and having worked twice, maybe three times as hard as the current xp/bh system requires.





Dont start with this plz. Many people didnt have tons of free time to do that stuff. ME for example I have been playing since launch and I yet to make more than 3 mil credits and only have 3 prem pearls from pre cu, none of which are perfect.


The fact that people had more free time or started the game before someone else knew about it shouldnt be the reason why some have awesome sabers. I had to work two jobs so I could raise money for college or else I would have been playing more. just my two cents.







First, all you noobs need to shut up. Just cause you just unlocked and don't think it is fair...well noone asked you. Noone listened to us when they nerfed us back in patch 9 and 10 and every hotfix afterwards. So, noone is listening to you village idiots now.


Second of all. If you have been playing from launch and say you had no time to play. then I am going to throw out the BS flag on that one. I am active duty Navy and was on a ship overseas in Japan. I had the time to unlock inbetween so many damn periods at sea it was stupid silly. It took me 2 months to unlock with a 3 week underway period right in the middle of it. I would have nightmares on the ship at night trying to think of what my silent profession was. When I did unlock, then I still had to grind and deal with permadeath while still going to sea all the time. I watched younger jedi pass me up in abilities.


And if you were smart like some of us, you would have stocked up on pearls before the CU hit. I was still grinding my jedi and I thought they might nerf our pearls or something. so instead of grinding my jedi who was almost done prior to the CU, I logged in 3 Master Commando's and a tank on my computers and I farmed Krayts for weeks straight. I made sure I stocked up on pearls. So you all had the oppurtunity to do this. You should have known with any sort of revamp SOE speaks of that concerns you, you need to go to Sportsmart and buy an industrial strength jock strap and wear it cause the kick to the crotch is coming and it is going to hurt.


So all you noobs crying for equal sabers, well I hear the Rev Jessie Jackson is not too busy atm, I am sure he can find some reason to shout discrimination for you. Go complain to him.


And to answer the main question, if they nerf our pearls after we are already in the lower 15% of the weapon damage of energy weapons....ooooo I will be so mad. San Diego is not too long of a drive for me.

Message Edited by TylerDarkman on 09-24-2005 04:31 AM

TylerDarkman
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:31 am
#124

oh yeah, I am special just cause I have had to deal with all of our changes. Us old jedi should get nerf vet rewards.
magneto2
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:34 am
#125

its not nerfin your "pre-CU" saber....my post CU saber is better than most of yours



its fixing a system that is broke and doesnt work with the CU



and stop calling peeps village idiots.....holo grind=grind half of it afk





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magneto2
Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:35 am
#126

and BTW, no one knows whats gonna happen, its all rumors and hearsay, chill till we hear something for real from a DEV




MaGnEtODark Jeedai "Carebear"
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Narut0
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:05 am
#127

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT QUIT
stop saying if it happens you will quit pack your bags quit now we don't need bs in this game from the VETs who think they are owed something cos of the amount of time they spend in game.

Personly
look
<<<<< sep/2003 i been playing since Beta 3 (only cos i never got in to the other closed betas)
but you guys are complaining about a damn weapon nerf.

what if the DEVs never gave us ADKs? we would be worse of then wouldn't we. yeh i bet you all think no we wouldn't.
but i think that would be the case, instead of haveing 100s of millions of creds in your account you would be skint and your premium pearls in your bank for the rainy day.



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Infinity [Kaga] 2 times ACE PILOT & intergalactic Arsonist
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MiniveNyla
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:36 am
#128






TylerDarkman wrote:






Phantom513 wrote:





triplejacko wrote:
I am already hanging onto this game by a string.

I'm curious how many of you will quit if the Devs decide to change sabers all together, or somehow devalue the quality of the pearls we have in our sabers now.


It seems to me, that having better sabers is part of our privilege for having walked a different path, and having worked twice, maybe three times as hard as the current xp/bh system requires.





Dont start with this plz. Many people didnt have tons of free time to do that stuff. ME for example I have been playing since launch and I yet to make more than 3 mil credits and only have 3 prem pearls from pre cu, none of which are perfect.


The fact that people had more free time or started the game before someone else knew about it shouldnt be the reason why some have awesome sabers. I had to work two jobs so I could raise money for college or else I would have been playing more. just my two cents.







First, all you noobs need to shut up. Just cause you just unlocked and don't think it is fair...well noone asked you. Noone listened to us when they nerfed us back in patch 9 and 10 and every hotfix afterwards. So, noone is listening to you village idiots now.


Second of all. If you have been playing from launch and say you had no time to play. then I am going to throw out the BS flag on that one. I am active duty Navy and was on a ship overseas in Japan. I had the time to unlock inbetween so many damn periods at sea it was stupid silly. It took me 2 months to unlock with a 3 week underway period right in the middle of it. I would have nightmares on the ship at night trying to think of what my silent profession was. When I did unlock, then I still had to grind and deal with permadeath while still going to sea all the time. I watched younger jedi pass me up in abilities.


And if you were smart like some of us, you would have stocked up on pearls before the CU hit. I was still grinding my jedi and I thought they might nerf our pearls or something. so instead of grinding my jedi who was almost done prior to the CU, I logged in 3 Master Commando's and a tank on my computers and I farmed Krayts for weeks straight. I made sure I stocked up on pearls. So you all had the oppurtunity to do this. You should have known with any sort of revamp SOE speaks of that concerns you, you need to go to Sportsmart and buy an industrial strength jock strap and wear it cause the kick to the crotch is coming and it is going to hurt.


So all you noobs crying for equal sabers, well I hear the Rev Jessie Jackson is not too busy atm, I am sure he can find some reason to shout discrimination for you. Go complain to him.


And to answer the main question, if they nerf our pearls after we are already in the lower 15% of the weapon damage of energy weapons....ooooo I will be so mad. San Diego is not too long of a drive for me.

Message Edited by TylerDarkman on 09-24-2005 04:31 AM



Ok, that was one long boring whine. But if I understand you correct you are saying it is ok if there are no more premium pearl dropsas long as you get to keep yours. Is that correct?

Bermag
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:43 am
#129


It should be just as easy (or hard) to get good TUNED pearls/crystals pre-cu as post-cu. it is not relevant if it is easier or harder to get jedi or grind jedi before or after CU.


The question is however if it is really harder to get a good tuned pearl/crystal post-cu than it was pre-cu. Tunes seems better post-cu than it was pre-cu. I never got a good tune on anything below premium pearls pre-cu but after CU even fairs might get a good tune. I tuned tons of premiums pre-cu with bad stats. I tuned 1 premium post-cu and it was one of the best tunes I got.


Don't nerf existing pearls, instead fix drops of new pearls/crystals, but also the quality is not that improtant what is important is the chance to get a good tune. If good pearls have the same chances to get a good tune as premiums had pre-cu then it really doesn't matter.


Btw, I don't think premiums dropped from anything below Canyon Krayts (juvinile were quality). I never looted a flawless myself.





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EcadMistflier
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:10 am
#130


There is no reason whatsoever to expect that anything in this game is beyond the reach of the nerf bat. What in all the long history of this game would lead anyone to the conclusion that Lightsaber components (pearls, crystals, etc.) could not or will not continue to face developmental changes? There is nothing that the player base has ever done to implement changes in SWG except for playing the game as it presented to them and offering up opinions? No player made the Jedi changes we play with now.


No player or group of players have ever broken a skill set or combat class. All players have ever done is play the game as the developers have configured it. Players have discovered imbalances, bugs, etc but they have never written a line of code.If the developers see the need to adjust old pearls or provide a different way of crafting and maximizing Lightsaber damage then they will do so and the players who enjoy the game will evolve their gameplay.


Old players who unlocked early ( like me ) or who ground out Jedi under the old system are not by virtue of playing under the old system > the post cu or post pub 9 Jedi. There is no better or worse IMHO. There are just players playing the game under the system as it is presented to them. We may have preferrencesbutin the end the game will continue to evolve and hopefully present a more fully flushed out and fun experience for everyone.




Ecad Mistflier
Force Wielder and Old School Disturber of the Peace
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