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Thread: My CU2 thoughts on Jedi and what it has become.

ChefRubio
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:11 pm
#1



First off I would like to say that I will more than likely continue playing the game and enjoying it, and I know I have made several somewhat harsh posts towards these "carebear" jedi, but I feel the class that made me want to play this game and the class that I have proudly been a member of for almost two years is about to loose any its lusterit has leftin the game and in a sense, die.


The jedi grind used to be long and hard. It used to have significant consequences to death. Now its easy and hardly any consequences to visibility comparatively. No matter how easy they made it people would still be complaining. Finally they have been given the doorway to jedi at the start of the game through the Force Sensitive profession.


IMHO the luster of the jedi class was destroyed by people who wanted to casually game as a jedi. There are plenty of games to casually play as a jedi where you pick up and play as a jedi, where no other classes or professions are involved. Since other classes are involved in SWG jedi must be compared to them.Jedi, in theory, should be a superior combatant due to their training and assistance of the force, therefore an alpha class. This training should take time andgo through trials and tribulations to earn the power granted


Now in the CU2 they will be reduced to being nothing special, just an everyday ordinary class accessible to all. Jedi should be a class rewarded to the diligent and those willing to go the distance to unlock it, and it should be rewarding. Jedi, I fear will loose what little respect it had as the class earned by the elders of the game and by those diligent enough to go through the trials of becoming one.


I just watched Episode III the other day when it came out on DVD, and the warmth at which so much of the community is accepting jedi becoming an starter profession has made me feel somewhat like Padme when the Sidious took over as emperor and she said, "So this is how liberty dies...With thunderous applause."


I feel like the last part of what was keeping me, and many others, somewhat enthralled with this profession has been taken away by those who are blind sighted as to what a Jedi truly should be: An extremely well trained, disciplined warrior whose desire is to keep peace and balance in the galaxy.


/deepbow

Message Edited by ChefRubio on 11-06-2005 11:46 PM



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Andreil
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:15 pm
#2

I think carebears ruined the game. No more bhs wth-- They are my content.....



Anyways well said.





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ChefRubio
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:20 pm
#3

/bump for fast forum








Priest |Aenemia
~Jedi Elder~
|||FEDS|||
One of the few, the proud, the pre patch 9.
SparkyNine
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:25 pm
#4

I'm gonna chime in and give sony a hint in the MMORPG development department. Keys to a successful mmorpg



Rule #1)Make the player feel like they are the hero


Rule #2) Make character progression rewarding and steady



SOE has removed #1 and completely erased all your efforts (for those of you who have been around since launch) TWICE. so. um. ya. doomed. I'm on vent now telling my DAoC buddies how much ofa disaster this is. and I'll play some CS:S this week and do the same... and I'll post on every board I can to let folks know that SWG is a disaster that isn't "waiting" to happen, it's a disaster that "continues" to happen.





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TonieStark
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:38 pm
#5

Losing some of the uniqueness and hard work of the original Jedi sucks and so does losing my MCH (I feel waaaaay owrse about that) but in the end...the game was fun today, in fact funner than it has been in a long time. I hope you guys stay , I hope everyone stays


I actually got on TC2 (finally) today and played for 12 hours. The NGE is pretty darn cool. In factI had a blast (and so did everyone I talked to) . I predict alot ofplayers spewing negative comments eating crow in about a month. I know change sometimes sucks but I actually feel this will let the game grow and be even better than before...and oh yeah...it actually felt like a Star wars game today.






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Grienthumb
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:39 pm
#6

12 hours? Then your the reason i havnt been able to get on yet!!

Message Edited by Grienthumb on 11-06-2005 09:40 PM

TonieStark
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:43 pm
#7








Grienthumb wrote:

12 hours? Then your the reason i havnt been able to get on yet!!

Message Edited by Grienthumb on 11-06-200509:40 PM





I finally had to stop....man it felt like launch today all over again LOL! I am taking a break tomorrow ....I have a bunch of post with pics if you are interested. just look at the post i have done in my profile section. loot pics, combat pics etc.

Message Edited by TonieStark on 11-06-2005 09:43 PM



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OohBo
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:44 pm
#8

Good thoughts rubio, and I totally agree. Star Wars used to be a bad-a$$ game, with the ball$ to have an alpha-class that was truly superior to all other classes - but that required much dedication, and carried much risk along with it. A 'casual' gamer could never be a Jedi. And you are so right, there are plenty of games you can start righout being a Jedi, why did they feel it necessary to make SWG the same? We'll never know, and us saying this will not change anything they are going to do.



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ChefRubio
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:44 pm
#9






TonieStark wrote:








Grienthumb wrote:

12 hours? Then your the reason i havnt been able to get on yet!!

Message Edited by Grienthumb on 11-06-200509:40 PM





I finally had to stop....man it felt like launch today all over again LOL! I am taking a break tomorrow ....I have a bunch of post with pics if you are interested. just look at the post i have done in my profile section. loot pics, combat pics etc.

Message Edited by TonieStark on 11-06-2005 09:43 PM





I'm not planning on quitting just FYI..Im sure the NGE will be fun. I will still be discontent at the profession loosing its luster.






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~Jedi Elder~
|||FEDS|||
One of the few, the proud, the pre patch 9.
Goarev
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:51 pm
#10

it lost it's luster with the village



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Jimjoo
Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:32 pm
#11

Whatever this moronic and insane NGE was supposed to do..


If you havent visited the testcenter lately.. Check it out...


Welcome to JEDI WORLD..


97 % of ALL ppl encountered on a FULL server is .... ohhh let me guess... JEDI...


Ohh.. they are just checking.. and will respec to something else.. IM SUUURE about that..



You dumb dumb idiots.... SOE =lunatics house...


The NGE is so bad.. Im trying to concieve how it is possible to make something that stupid..


Its beyond me..
dubiousmastax
Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:34 pm
#12



TonieStark wrote:

Losing some of the uniqueness and hard work of the original Jedi sucks and so does losing my MCH (I feel waaaaay owrse about that) but in the end...the game was fun today, in fact funner than it has been in a long time. I hope you guys stay , I hope everyone stays

I actually got on TC2 (finally) today and played for 12 hours. The NGE is pretty darn cool. In fact I had a blast (and so did everyone I talked to) . I predict alot of players spewing negative comments eating crow in about a month. I know change sometimes sucks but I actually feel this will let the game grow and be even better than before...and oh yeah...it actually felt like a Star wars game today.






Have you thought that maybe its just fun again because they have presented you with a new learning curve? You've been given a new maze that still smells like your favorite cheese
x_Damion_x
Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:16 am
#13

Great post, Priest



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