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Thread: ML vs 0404 !?

StevenDK
Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:27 am
#1


I would guess this question has been asked many times and there have been many thoughts to this. "My search dosnt seem to work, so just had a question, witch might be answred by a link to another thread".


My opinion:


4040 Seems to be a waste of SP for me. If used right,I would guess that some of the enhancements would be good, but I would rather have something else...


Master box gives 25+ saber speed and 25+ Saber Acc, 20+ General melee speed and 15+ general acc! Thats Nice! but with some CA's i would be able to get some of that back. "question is if ML then gains allot to have both these + CA tapes, but not shure about caps and how much the highest numbers matters"


Master box gives Saber Dervish and advanced saber throw.. Well they work good, but the KD ability is gained by 0400 and i hate KD at range becouse its fast to get up again, and lag makes things worse.. Dervish is nice for grinding and larges scale wars, but nothing i would miss rly..


Master box gives Lightsaber assembly 30+ Thats important i guess.. problem for me is that im ML atm and allready got the saber i want..


Master Box gives Block +5, Im not shure how good this is?



Im looking for a fun PVP template... I would like ME but if i combine this with ML my oppertuneties for Defense is bad.. So if it would be possible to save some SPs here without to much of a loss it would be great!


I know that by having 2 Master boxes you get allot more Force.. But that would be allright with me...



So what im realy looking for here is some numbers that show ML is rly worth the 4040 boxes!!!



Plzz help, this is driving me crazy lol









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Skipperino
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:11 am
#2

go mls healer 4100 enahncer 4404 def 0040 better def then mdef



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CaptainWinkii
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:20 am
#3

i stand by my MLS. wouldnt give it up for anything.



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dubber2558
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:20 am
#4


Realize that if you go 04040 LS and you get a blind applied to you while fighting a MDEF you will miss hitting him 3/5 times. I know this b/c Shaila proved this to me a while ago.






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SoloBacca1
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:26 am
#5

Steven det er meget enkel bror, det handler om hvilken andre skills du har, f.eks. jeg kender en Master Enchancer 0-0-4-4 Defender 4-0-0-0 Healer, og så lige 0-4-1-4 og ingen kan slå ham ned! fordi han har mere Defense end en Master Defender, han har evner I master Enchacner og så lidt Saber Power med den der Two-Handed Tree's!




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Sack_of_poos
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:30 am
#6






SoloBacca1 wrote:

Steven det er meget enkel bror, det handler om hvilken andre skills du har, f.eks. jeg kender en Master Enchancer 0-0-4-4 Defender 4-0-0-0 Healer, og så lige 0-4-1-4 og ingen kan slå ham ned! fordi han har mere Defense end en Master Defender, han har evner I master Enchacner og så lidt Saber Power med den der Two-Handed Tree's!




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Eskie
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:46 am
#7

Currently the only difference between MLS and LS 0404 is that MLS have more high-damage attacks on different timers. Speed is currently broken, so all the speed mods dont work. After speed is fixed, it has to be seen how much difference it will make since speed is on a formula of diminishing returns.
My guess is a LS 0404 with Improved Force Speed will not be a lot slower than a MLS with Improved Force Speed.
Another advantage of the MLS is the higher accuracy - but seriously, if you are facing 500+ melee defense, from any Defender xx4x (and most Jedi either have Def xx4x or root / cloak), the loss in accuracy is neglectible and you can use foods to increase it.
Only advantage of the MLS will be that he can apply more states and target specific body areas.
Another advantage of MLS is the better LS crafting.



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MasterSheep
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:59 am
#8

0404 is only truely effective if you can get alot of tapes and a nice saber - if your saber is 500 max then youll want/need master


however if your rich and can afford tapes then you can effectively get the master box mods and save 41 skill points


only thing youll lack is a little accy over the untaped MLS






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StevenDK
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:13 am
#9


Thx for all tips, Oghejsolobacca


This is what im thinking of:


1: Lightsaber 0404, Master Enhancer, Defender 4040, Healer 4000


Or.


2: Master Lightsaber, Defender 4040, Enhancer 3402, Healer 4000


Or.


3: Master Lightsaber, Master Enhancer, "Defender 0020, Healer 3000" or. "Healer 0404"



They requirepretty different combat tactics and not shure that nr. 3 would be able to stand 1 on 1 against other jedis, witch for me is just as important as having fun "cause maybe ME would have fun skills, but they would prbly loose there spark if I cant win"..





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griffstar
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:14 am
#10

and with mls at least u get a knockdown attack which comes in handy from all thoose kiting bh



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StevenDK
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:29 am
#11

you get KD in 0004



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griffstar
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:33 am
#12

u dont u did master sabres is only kd attack now



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MasterSheep
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:40 am
#13

xxx1 has sweep which is KD - however if you have 4xxx enhancer you almost better off rooting them and running in to deliver the KD.



the adv saber throw is the MLS MD only defnece really vs a kiter





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