Jedi Archive

So far with this NGE we have seen numerous “nerfs” to our Jedi profession. In this context, the definition of “nurf” would be to reduce the effectiveness of a character class (in any form).Many of these have been quite devastating to what we have come to know as our alpha class over the last two years. Applying an alpha class to a mmorpg was a decision that Sony made for SWG and unfortunately players are not only asked but expected to adapt and adjust according to the decisions Sony makes without taking into consideration its effect on long term players. A basic philosophical discrepancy exists here between Sony, Lucasarts, and the customers of this game. That discrepancy is the issue here. Public announcements stating that the players think the game is too complicated and difficult is a farce. A majority of the players that have been playing for a length of time continue to play because of the diversity, and complication. The “instant action” style of play has (up to this point) never included RPG as a primary component. The reason for this is because most “instant action” players are not interested in content, storyline, or quest based playing.

With the last two test center clones we have been able to shed some light on certain portions of the conversion process and how unbalanced our profession will wind up when its all said and done. To most of you I am sure this has been a tremendous let down from what we have come to know and for many of you this will be the end. Our profession is about to be utterly destroyed by the unbalances put forth by this New Game “Enhancement”. An Enhancement that will soon take away all the diversity we had, resulting in the Jedi profession being nothing more than a Starting profession.

On both TC-Corbantis and TC-Ahazi we have seen characters Pre-NGE converting to CL80. This is totally unbelievable. Most of use Vets are finished templates by now and to be converted to CL80 is an insult. It just means one more thing; back to the grind. As a Jedi we have ground out numerous templates from double masters to dabblers and back again. Why should we be forced to grind again. We also have been without the FRS for countless months and from what Tiggs said a week or so back, we will be without it for the rest of our time in this game. Again this is unacceptable.

Again on both TC-Corbantis and TC-Ahazi our negative xp is being cleared to zero. For some Jedi who are in the negative due to numerous BH encounters, FRS deaths, and/or PvE deaths this must be great. But to the Jedi that have been careful throughout their life as a Jedi this must be a downright slap in the face. To have survived all the hardships of being a Jedi and still come out on top is a great accomplishment. This great accomplishment will mean nothing in the end if we don’t get a reward for it. Show us what our time and effort was worth. Give us our xp so that we can convert above CL80. As it is our grind will be hindered due to lack of weaponry (no 4th Gen until CL86). Getting nothing for our time and efforts again is completely unacceptable.

Most of us are use to the many diverse templates that we once accomplished. With the new NGE we will no longer have that ability. We will no longer have any of those abilities. To quote a player from the community “I am not upset about the new NGE, it actually seems pretty cool. What I am upset about is what we (Jedi) are losing. We are losing all of our skills. We Jedi are being watered down to a nothing profession. Every single thing that makes being a Jedi fun is being taken away. Normally when a game is enhanced or upgraded you add things to it, not take them away from us or water them down; look at force run for example.” Again this is completely unacceptable. Don’t give us varying ability levels; give us our abilities arsenal back.

Where is it? Jedi in the new NGE do not get any, it has been taken away from us. How about adding some armor to our robes? Make them worthwhile other than just cool looking Veteran Reward. Please make it something that is actually a New Game “Enhancement” not just another nerf. In my book, taking armor away is just another nerf to add to the list of countless nerfs that have made our profession nothing more than a starting profession; the worst nerf of all.

On both of the TC servers I have seen countless premium and flawless pearls/crystals that have converted to equals. Most if not all pearls/crystals have converted to 8/9 and 9/9. Everyone who had less than adequate pearls/crystals will love this because it puts them on par with everyone else but what about the people that had perfect tunes. What a slap in the face yet again with this new NGE. All those hours of Krayt and Crystal hunting just got washed down the drain. In the conversion thread Tiggs wanted to know if there were any that tuned over 20. Have any tuned over 10? Come on Devs, balance us. Don’t make us a crafter with a Lightsaber.

Till now this was one of the great bonus’s that Jedi had from being Pre-NGE. We would be the only character accounts to have multiple players on a single server. This was a great reward for taking the time to unlock during the various systems of previous. Now we get yet another slap in the face. Stop making us totally equals, give us some edge, and I don’t mean just some robe that looks cool or a new color crystal. Give us something that will allow us to gain an edge.

When you log in and respect to your new template you will browse through the trees to see that you have not been given any of the CL rewards. Just because we didn’t have to do the grind over again does not mean we don’t want them. Grant us all the rewards from each level. We may not want them but at least give us the option. I for one would love to do the quests from the items that can be inspected. A lot of those items have skill mods as well. What makes you think we wont want that? Give us our CL80 and below rewards.

In the Jedi trees there are No root ability. All of the Combat classes have a snare and root, some have multiple. Jedi Currently has 3 snares and no root abilities. How does a melee class strike down their opponent when we can’t stop them from kiting us? A Jedi needs to be able to root their opponent so we can catch up and fight them. Not chase and heal all day long. How is this “As Designed – Blixtev”?

With the launch of the NGE just less than a week away I see one big nerf coming for Jedi. We are getting some new abilities, mixed with some old abilities. Most of the lower level abilities are completely useless. Pearls and Crystals are tuning to sub-par stats, Lightsaber stats are worse off with each new TC-Clone(server name) and we are being forced to grind a finished template yet again. Not only that but we will now be a starter profession, which will be joined by all the respec-Jedi who never went through what we did to unlock and new comers. What I see is a NGE of unacceptable changes and this disturbs me. What has SOE done to our profession and what are we going to do about it? Use this thread to voice what opinions you all have of the new NGE now that we have seen it in action from two server clones. Tell the Devs how unacceptable these New Game “Enhancements” really are. We need to be more vocal than we ever have to stop the negative effects of what is hitting our profession ten times worse than others. If you want to have your voice heard you’ll need to express yourself in a constructive manner. A plausible argument really helps matters but no matter what please post your opinion in this thread.

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Thursday, September 08, 2005, 1:35:17

Tell it like it is Guaarr.... at a boy!!! Thank gawd we have some REAL honesty from our corrospondant, seems SOE can't seem to muster up the grapes to be honest with us.SOE / LucasI hope your taking notes on this stuff.... this is your community talking here.... Remember us??

By the way.... I beg ANY dev to hop in this thread and name JUST ONE "Enhancment" you have made to the Jedi profession... then I would like you to name all of the skills you have taken from Jedi to make this enhancment. To enhance somthing means to take an exsisting "thing" and make it better.... NOT to take an exsisting "thing" and throw it in the trash!

Oophion

My account ends dec. 3rd and i only have 5 bucks

That sums up my thoughts.

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I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...

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Ok, what people still have yet to understand is....SoE DOESN'T CARE what the current player base thinks. They will make more money off this from the newcomers than the old Veterans sticking around. It's a lot like they say in all those War movies...."The sooner you accept the fact that you are already dead, the sooner you will be able to perform." For people who still don't understand what I'm saying is, we are Collateral Damage and no amount of complaining will solve your problems.