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Thread: Master Powers temp question

Windrider01
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:43 am
#1

Master Powers just doesn't do the damage that a LS can; if you want to compete in 1v1you'll need armor break so i'd go with 4 in two handed LS.


My templet is very ....different. Master powers/Master defender 0400 LS 1000 enh. The idea is that most of Defender is passive and doesnt take alot of force while on the other hand Powers is a force hog.Because i'm a support role for large battles I need AI, healsusually don't cut it. One of the major draw backs in powers is the slow attacks; unless you have a doc by your side hitting u with speed buffs you're going to need the speed tree in enh.


To give any advice about what skills to take i'd need to know what role you want to play. If you have a poor LS (below 500 max damage) and want to play a support rolethen you should consider dropping LS.



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next to attack their army; and the lowest is to attack their fortified cities." Sun Tzu






SnakeLives
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:59 am
#2

i was lucky enough to get alot of pearls b4 the cu. my saber ranges from like a 660 dmg 11fc to 700dmg 18 fc. right now im mls with some healing. I guess my real question is with the stats on thissaber should i even go with powers?
Windrider01
Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:15 am
#3



A 700 LS... hell no don't go powers. One of the reasons i did so was because i only have a 624 max LS. With no way to compete with the better sabers i figured i'ld try something else.


With that type of saber i'd stay away from powers as if it were the plauge. From my experience with master powers and only one line in LS you'll lose to MBH/CM and the "anycombat prof" + Master Doc or Master CM. Like i said before powers is for crowd controlnot a 1v1 skill set. And to be honest it doesn't do that all that well. Think of Mpowers as the Master commandos of jedi.



If you insist on messing with powers i'd stick with cloak. Its the best skill powers has and its great fun.


P.S. For even thinking of going powers w/ a LS like that you should be kicked in the nuts.


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Message Edited by Windrider01 on 09-04-2005 03:16 AM





Eurus Windrider
Master Powers
Ace Imperial Pilot
"Thus the highest realization of warfare is to attack the enemy's plans; next is to attack their alliances;
next to attack their army; and the lowest is to attack their fortified cities." Sun Tzu






SnakeLives
Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:23 am
#4

well right now im icing my balls as we speak, lol. i want an all around jedi, used to pvp alot back in the day b4 the cu, but i havnt played for more than maybe a week since the cu. any suggestions with cloak in that temp with mls?
SnakeLives
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:10 pm
#5

What would be good to go with MPowers , LS 0/4/04? Looking for some advice good or bad?
DaTick
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:26 pm
#6

I'll give ya My template & a few others to mull over Prsonally I think mine is the best but thats what everyone sais lol.


Master Powers

LS 0400 I don't need Saberthrow with force KD

Healer 4000 A nessesity with teh lower defense

Defender 0040 They can break inate & force armor but not my defense from aura

Enhancer 4004 loaded with tactics to help out with PVPing


There is also MPowers Menhancer 4004 (I'm personally not a fan)

Master Powers MLS healer 4040 (also not a big fan)

Mpowers Menhancer Healer 2000 Enhancer 3000 or heal 3000 LS 0200 take your pick

Master Powers MLS Healer 2000 Enhancer 3000 or heal 3000 LS 0200 take your pick

The bottom 2 are templates that you don't see a lot of & I think they are very viable if you are more of a support player.


Those are a few off the top of my head there are many more but that should getcha started & give you something to think about.




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DaTick
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:29 pm
#7

OOps my bad to much copy & paste lol


I'll give ya My template & a few others to mull over Prsonally I think mine is the best but thats what everyone sais lol.


Master Powers

LS 0400 I don't need Saberthrow with force KD

Healer 4000 A nessesity with teh lower defense

Defender 0040 They can break inate & force armor but not my defense from aura

Enhancer 4004 loaded with tactics to help out with PVPing


There is also MPowers Menhancer 4004 (I'm personally not a fan)

Master Powers MLS healer 4040 (also not a big fan)

Mpowers Menhancer Healer 2000 LS 0300 or Healer 3000 LS 0200 take your pick

Master Powers MLS Healer 2000 Enhancer 3000 or heal 3000 LS 0200 take your pick

The bottom 2 are templates that you don't see a lot of & I think they are very viable if you are more of a support player.


Those are a few off the top of my head there are many more but that should getcha started & give you something to think about.


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SnakeLives
Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:58 pm
#8

anyone have any thoughts, maybe forget about powers?
bcman2k1
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:15 am
#9

are u crazy. im master powers master enhance and i went from 4040 healing to 3000 heals and 0020 defender. i liked having sap and the full force pool, i dominated the bh/mcm builds daily i found myself not using sap very much in my battles. im noticing opponents miss me more often with the basic aura going and i almost tripled my defense. lol i went from none to some. but its not the big difference i was hoping for. i may trade 0020 defender for 0020 sabers and see if i like it more


dont listen to these guys, master powers is devastating to a non jedi particularly the ranged ones. i only lose to friendly guild duels when i dont worry about using cloak or fr3 or anything.



Berdelsan
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:17 am
#10

i thought about that aswell but i want a saber and i want to block as thats a jedi to me.

Dark Jedi = lightsaber + force powers

so

Mine is:

MP
LS 0.4.0.4
Enh 3.4.0.2
Heal 4.0.0.0

I like it this way

You will lose out on some force, stasis (biggy), force resist lines (bugged or/and sux), Fr3, i prefer fr1 (its actually not that fast and cloak will get you to safety better), you loose maditate but no biggy, it does not regen much faster.

You will gain block which is a passive effect (no force), use saber specials, channel one more ranged attack in throw, a "single knockdown" which is great cause adv KD does area and agros everything in range.

You will get all you really need from the enhancer line, throw away the garbage in it, loose a bit but gain much.

I think cloak/stais/fr3 is defencive/retreative overkill. Actually you only need 1 of them to get out of trouble.

i hope it helps



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Durzel
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:33 am
#11



Berdelsan wrote:
i thought about that aswell but i want a saber and i want to block as thats a jedi to me.

Dark Jedi = lightsaber + force powers

so

Mine is:

MP
LS 0.4.0.4
Enh 3.4.0.2
Heal 4.0.0.0

I like it this way

You will lose out on some force, stasis (biggy), force resist lines (bugged or/and sux), Fr3, i prefer fr1 (its actually not that fast and cloak will get you to safety better), you loose maditate but no biggy, it does not regen much faster.

You will gain block which is a passive effect (no force), use saber specials, channel one more ranged attack in throw, a "single knockdown" which is great cause adv KD does area and agros everything in range.

You will get all you really need from the enhancer line, throw away the garbage in it, loose a bit but gain much.

I think cloak/stais/fr3 is defencive/retreative overkill. Actually you only need 1 of them to get out of trouble.

i hope it helps


I agree with this.

I'm MPowers/Enh 3402/Def 0044/Heal 4000 at the moment and I had been toying with the idea of going MPowers/MEnh/Def 0020/Heal 3000 but the inability to toggle the lower speed Force Runs coupled with FR3s 400 (or is it 600?) activation force cost is a bit concern. Also, as has already been said, Stasis + Cloak is probably overkill - if you can root a BH you can normally get far enough away to Cloak, without leaving them sat there for 45 seconds (although it does ensure escape).

MPower is all about kiting, and normal running (especially with a ranged weapon, not a LS) is not fast enough to escape most mobs, and FR3 has 95% damage reduction. Toggling it off and on repeatedly would negate any benefit the double mastery would have on force.

I'm leaning towards dropping Def 0044 and going LS 0404 instead, the rationale being that xxx4 in LS gives basically the same bonuses as Imp Force Valor (exactly the same in fact, and its passive), and Force Armor should be enough to keep me alive with the additional dmg output of a LS on top of choke/lightning, etc.

Just some food for thought there.



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JeffroTGIF
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:37 am
#12

hey eurus, thanks for clearing up why i kept misssing you and doing low damage....lol



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Durzel
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:46 am
#13



Windrider01 wrote:

Master Powers just doesn't do the damage that a LS can; if you want to compete in 1v1 you'll need armor break so i'd go with 4 in two handed LS.

My templet is very ....different. Master powers/Master defender 0400 LS 1000 enh. The idea is that most of Defender is passive and doesnt take alot of force while on the other hand Powers is a force hog. Because i'm a support role for large battles I need AI, heals usually don't cut it. One of the major draw backs in powers is the slow attacks; unless you have a doc by your side hitting u with speed buffs you're going to need the speed tree in enh.

To give any advice about what skills to take i'd need to know what role you want to play. If you have a poor LS (below 500 max damage) and want to play a support role then you should consider dropping LS.

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Eurus Windrider

IA --Original Formula




Isn't MPowers/MDef a bit of a paradox?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure its perfect for group PvP if the opposing side is focusing attacks on you to stop you benefiting the group - but in PvE as MPowers you're gonna be wanting to use the range that it gives you, not stand there and toe-to-toe it with a sabre? I know with 0400 LS you can deal out some decent damage with AB/Power Attack, but ultimately at melee range you are pretty much wasting the benefits of Powers when you could be using MLS instead.

Not to mention of course that without Force Speed and Channel you will have massive downtime after any Force-intensive fight.



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