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Thread: Master Enhancer (Stasis) / Master Healer discussion
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RankorCity
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:02 pm
#1
Forgive me if this has been brought up, but I dont frequent these forums too much anymore.
Given that Stasis is a Master Enhancer skill (lets ignore that Concussion Shot from Smuggler does the EXACT same thing), would it be fair to make it where Master Healer has the ability to cure it?
IMO, Stasis is a "state" attack. Technically, "Heal All States" should cure it (as well as any other mez/state), however, given that Stasis is a Master level ability, it seems a bit unbalancing that a fourth tier box should be able to cure it. The other alternative is to move Stasis to a fourth tier (still forgetting that Concussion Shot is a fourth tier Smuggler attack) skill, and give Master Enhancer something else.
In my eyes, its a perfect example of how screwed up Jedi is...But thats another arguement for another time...
MYeung
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:08 pm
#2
RankorCity wrote:Forgive me if this has been brought up, but I dont frequent these forums too much anymore.Given that Stasis is a Master Enhancer skill (lets ignore that Concussion Shot from Smuggler does the EXACT same thing), would it be fair to make it where Master Healer has the ability to cure it?IMO, Stasis is a "state" attack. Technically, "Heal All States" should cure it (as well as any other mez/state), however, given that Stasis is a Master level ability, it seems a bit unbalancing that a fourth tier box should be able to cure it. The other alternative is to move Stasis to a fourth tier (still forgetting that Concussion Shot is a fourth tier Smuggler attack) skill, and give Master Enhancer something else.In my eyes, its a perfect example of how screwed up Jedi is...But thats another arguement for another time...
First off, isn't concusion shot an area daze? IIRC. Secondly, if you take damage with stasis on, it goes away. It isn't an overpowered skill as it takes some 400-500 force or so to use, and half the time it misses anyway.
Goarev
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:10 pm
#3
how many times has enhancer been nerfed? More than any other jedi profession! Leave it alone.
BUT healer definitly needs to be tweaked.
MsNiL
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:13 pm
#5
Many things have been said about improving Master Healer. Being able to break Daze, Root and Snare is one of the things that have been mentioned. For balance reasons the devs may have decided that NOTHING should be able to break theese states, in that case it wont happen.
RankorCity wrote:
Forgive me if this has been brought up, but I dont frequent these forums too much anymore.
Given that Stasis is a Master Enhancer skill (lets ignore that Concussion Shot from Smuggler does the EXACT same thing), would it be fair to make it where Master Healer has the ability to cure it?
IMO, Stasis is a "state" attack. Technically, "Heal All States" should cure it (as well as any other mez/state), however, given that Stasis is a Master level ability, it seems a bit unbalancing that a fourth tier box should be able to cure it. The other alternative is to move Stasis to a fourth tier (still forgetting that Concussion Shot is a fourth tier Smuggler attack) skill, and give Master Enhancer something else.
In my eyes, its a perfect example of how screwed up Jedi is...But thats another arguement for another time...
But we can still hope. At least I hope for ways to clean out traumatize, hemorrhage, sap, thyroid rupture etc.
RankorCity
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:14 pm
#7
MYeung wrote:
RankorCity wrote:
Forgive me if this has been brought up, but I dont frequent these forums too much anymore.
Given that Stasis is a Master Enhancer skill (lets ignore that Concussion Shot from Smuggler does the EXACT same thing), would it be fair to make it where Master Healer has the ability to cure it?
IMO, Stasis is a "state" attack. Technically, "Heal All States" should cure it (as well as any other mez/state), however, given that Stasis is a Master level ability, it seems a bit unbalancing that a fourth tier box should be able to cure it. The other alternative is to move Stasis to a fourth tier (still forgetting that Concussion Shot is a fourth tier Smuggler attack) skill, and give Master Enhancer something else.
In my eyes, its a perfect example of how screwed up Jedi is...But thats another arguement for another time...
First off, isn't concusion shot an area daze? IIRC. Secondly, if you take damage with stasis on, it goes away. It isn't an overpowered skill as it takes some 400-500 force or so to use, and half the time it misses anyway.
No, concussion isnt an area daze, unless using a Commando weapon that has innate AoE built into it (all save the Proton Rifle and HPBC).
I'm not saying its overpowered. In ALL MMO's there are counters to everything. This prohibits, or at least its intention is, "God" classes/templates in that no matter what you do, there is something to counter it.
RankorCity
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:16 pm
#8
Goarev wrote:
how many times has enhancer been nerfed? More than any other jedi profession! Leave it alone.
BUT healer definitly needs to be tweaked.
/sigh
And this is why I dont frequent these forums....
I am not saying enhancer needs to be nerfed. I am saying there needs to be a counter, other than taking damage.
Counter does not equal nerf.
DrendalKahn
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:17 pm
#9
RankorCity wrote:
Goarev wrote:
how many times has enhancer been nerfed? More than any other jedi profession! Leave it alone.
BUT healer definitly needs to be tweaked.
/sigh
And this is why I dont frequent these forums....
I am not saying enhancer needs to be nerfed. I am saying there needs to be a counter, other than taking damage.
Counter does not equal nerf.
Should there be a counter to the heal?
Message Edited by DrendalKahn on 09-28-2005 09:17 PM
jrt
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:18 pm
#11
if Stasis is a state than all roots should be a state i don't think its a state its like paralyze you cant do anything at all. roots and snares are states u can still do things when u have them on u just cant move and if we are going to talk about states all the cm stuff should be a state so the heal all states tree is worth getting again
MsNiL
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:19 pm
#12
It's called sap or traumatize
DrendalKahn wrote:
Should there be a counter to the heal?
RankorCity
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:20 pm
#13
MsNiL wrote:
It's called sap or traumatize
DrendalKahn wrote:
Should there be a counter to the heal?
Nice one...
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