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Steegee

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:06 pm

One of my friends (i guess he's a friend, for a bh) told me i was on the terminals. I was leveling in the gen labs and my buffs were soon to run out. After a few min he told me he just served a bounty on another jedi. After a few tells back and forth we decided to try and duel.

Now i'm master saber/4002 tka, withrandom other jedi skills, but not alot considering i'm still some tka. I'm fully buffed, and power boosted. 2 brandy's and thak and steak, and air cake. First he let me try one of his bomb droids to see the damage. It was a 37 or so rated jahid droid. Did 999 damage to me after 75% reduction. I believe the steak helped by 43%.

Next we accually dueled. From what i gathered he's master tka/3040 bh. Not sure if he had anything else. The duel started at range and i blocked just bout everything, he hit me a few times with torsal shot. Then he went into melee range and pulled out his vk. I'm in my robe, he had no armor, and since psgs aren't working he didn't have one on either. He intimidated me and i didn't heal it. I intimidated back and he posture downed me (which is worse than kd cause thak doesn't help this i believe). He was doing bout 50-60 damage to me, while i was on fire from the torsal shot. I laid on the ground for bout 8-10 seconds before i could get up. I got up and used my most damaging polearm saber (458 max, 28fc... expiremented for damage only, with damage only crystals/pearls. I think i have an average of 35 or so on each pearl/crystal). I did dervish 2 on him and he never got back up.. I did maybe 10 of em on him. He got up and started to move away.

By that time he was at like 100 health... i didn't follow and was ready to just spam saber throw 3. But we ended the duel.

Take from this what you will. Intimidate helped me survive ALOT. It's worth checking out if you have spare points in your template for force powers. Remember FRS won't always be against jedi. So there's still use in powers, some what. I think i did very well against him. One on one would have been easy... but had there been more people against me i would have probably died. He had a very viable template for mid range and lower jedi, for solo killing them. Funny how he mastered tka in 3 days or less. But such is the way of things, we can't be uber at all levels. He admited that knight and near knights can not be taken solo at all. He wanted to duel again when i have to drop brawler (intimidate).

/salute spiffy

Message Edited by Steegee on 07-09-2004 04:33 PM

Linse D'aja (Annoying Spy) - D'aja (Elder Jedi)

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MakkTenn

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:36 pm

#2

nice info to have... I've been owned by pure tk's because of the dizzy, posture down thing. last time if i remember correctly I was dizzy kd for about 20 seconds.

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Olvenskol

Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:47 pm

#3

Thanks for the report Linse hun

*hug*
Gwenevie

Steegee

Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:08 pm

#4

yea, itwas a good fight. If i had heal states i would have finished him much much faster, since i was intimidated. And the dizzy/posture down is a bugger. But i've found that if i don't hit stand when i'm kneeling i have a better chance to stand with an auto attack or movement key than if i hit stand. If ya get my drift. But with heal states it wouldn't have made a difference there either.

The only thing i question now is my choice in saber. Dervish2 isn't the question... but the crafting of it is. I'll have to make some with ultra low fc and see if i can do as much damage. We don't get resisted at the moment anyways.

Linse D'aja (Annoying Spy) - D'aja (Elder Jedi)

All right, but apart from the sanitation droids, bionic limbs, hyper-drive, moisture vaporators, galactic order, abolisment of slavery, star charts, the compact and efficient central government and interplanetary free trade, what has the Empire ever done?"

shhhh, don't scare the coyote

Sifer2

Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:37 pm

#5

Ok most of that sounds about right. Not exactly fair in terms of time an effort. I mean Novice Brawler is free with only 15 skillpointsfor Intimidate but Jedi have to spend 22 skillpoints an 620,000 Jedi xp to get it in powers. **edit**

But anyway the one thing that REALLY caught my eye was that bomb droid. No one uses those on my server an the only one I ever encountered hit me for a few hundred points of damage if I did'nt wear armor on my TKA. But if that bomb droid was doing 990 damage to you in theory a group of Artisans could take a Jedi Knight down using them right? Or is there some cert for them somewhere. Right now they sound potentially overpowered.

Message Edited by Sifer2 on 07-09-2004 02:39 PM

-Sifer Two-
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-HadesBabe-

Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:15 pm

#6

Bomb droids may only be used by BH's and Smugglers.

WMeego The-MadW
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Meego

Steegee

Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:15 pm

#7

Sifer2 wrote:

Ok most of that sounds about right. Not exactly fair in terms of time an effort. I mean Novice Brawler is free with only 15 skillpointsfor Intimidate but Jedi have to spend 22 skillpoints an 620,000 Jedi xp to get it in powers. **edit**

But anyway the one thing that REALLY caught my eye was that bomb droid. No one uses those on my server an the only one I ever encountered hit me for a few hundred points of damage if I did'nt wear armor on my TKA. But if that bomb droid was doing 990 damage to you in theory a group of Artisans could take a Jedi Knight down using them right? Or is there some cert for them somewhere. Right now they sound potentially overpowered.

Message Edited by Sifer2 on 07-09-2004 02:39 PM

That is partially right. Only Bhs and smugglars can use these droids. And they can go up to bout 50-60 rating. Now DEs calculate that it's 170 damage per point.

So a perfect 60 rated droid=10200 damage in PvE.

10200 damage after 75% reduction=2550 damage

It's blast damage so with average comp (80%)=637.5

Now remember this is a perfect rated bomb droid. They require very specific resources and need to have near perfect stats. Not to mention this is the MAX damage, there's a min damage as well. Now i haven't tested this with toughness from tka or force armor. So i'm not sure how much they will help but i assume they work to lower the damage as well. The chance of getting a perfect 60 rated droid (depending on servers) is very rare. Not to mention exrtemely costly. We are tlaking 50k+ for a 35-40 rated droid on shadowfire. IF you can even find a DE to make any, and they havethe resources.

This droid was 37 rated.

37*170=6290 pve damage

6290*.25 (75% reduction for pvp)=1572.5 max pvp damage

Now this droid's max is 1572, but i only got hit for 999 while i had 43% steak in my system. So you should ALWAYS travel with steak in your stomach if you can, and with buffs (duh). Only one droid can be called out at a time. And you get a 3 second timer where the droid will accually display numbers, 3, 2, 1 them boom. When the count down starts they are attackable, and should be a one shot kill. They can be in any form of droid, but the best ones will be r3 models i think (the r2-d2 model) since they can have the most modules. I also believe you can pull them out in combat, but you'll have to program them with the basic commands before they can blow... ie Blow command, follow is only really needed.

These calculations are rough numbers. Not even DEs can verify them. But they are close, very close. And believe me, you will be seeing ALOT more of these critters.

Linse D'aja (Annoying Spy) - D'aja (Elder Jedi)

All right, but apart from the sanitation droids, bionic limbs, hyper-drive, moisture vaporators, galactic order, abolisment of slavery, star charts, the compact and efficient central government and interplanetary free trade, what has the Empire ever done?"

shhhh, don't scare the coyote

Sifer2

Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:38 pm

#8

Ok then that sounds really scary. As Jedi we dont have Armor right? So what's to stop 2 or 3 BH's/Smugglers from sending thier bomb droids in all at once an blowing a Jedi up in one shot? Would'nt even have time to heal if they sent in perfect or near perfect droids. Because do we even get a TEF to attackagainst those droids until were attacked? Probably not.....

-Sifer Two-
Master Pistoleer/Teras Kasi Artist/Smuggler
Imperial Inquisition Ace Pilot

Jedi Padawan

Locky-1138

Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:48 pm

#9

my template, Master saber, Enhance 0404, healing 3202 (working on master), Novice scout with some hunting skill

dueld a TKM/BH. used 24% synth stake, no force armor. and no robes, i never ware robes, just BE mele defence clothing.

TKM

went down

like

a

**edit**

were talking Pwnd like a FOTM owns a Pre-P9 initiate

earlier i fought a good old FOTM tk/fencer... i would have come out on top but for 2 things... i used force armor, this is BAD. i dont have heal stats Yet, that would have given me the win, as Intimidate2 ruins our damage.

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Steegee

Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:49 pm

#10

No we do get a tef for em. When the command is issued to blow up it's counted as an attack, but with a 3 second delay. You can spit on them and destroy them. Basically you have 3 seconds to destroy the droid.... The droid has a very low blast radius too. Very small. So if you see a droid following you start moving. They turn red on radar when they are counting down, or when their owner is already red to you on radar.

The only real use of these droid are for the unprepared jedi. You will never miss them if you try to hit them. You can see them coming, and hear them beeping. A bounty hunter should never use them while you are leveling because you will hit them with your ae attacks (which should be your main attack while leveling if ya got it). This is for sneak attacks.

I'm not sure if they can be unbalanced. I know they can follow you into a house, that's how many BHs kill afk grinding jedi back before the patch. Only one can be called at a time... but a group of them can be deadly if you don't see them coming. Personally, i'm not worried about them. Not yet

Linse D'aja (Annoying Spy) - D'aja (Elder Jedi)

All right, but apart from the sanitation droids, bionic limbs, hyper-drive, moisture vaporators, galactic order, abolisment of slavery, star charts, the compact and efficient central government and interplanetary free trade, what has the Empire ever done?"

shhhh, don't scare the coyote

EoZilbriss

Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:58 pm

#11

/chuckle...

...And if the BH in question has a kindly melee helper, and you get warcry 2'd? And the BH in question happens to be a Master Creature Handler too? That's 3 bomb droids, and all you can do is run. And if their melee buddy dizzy/kd's you? You're dead. You're dead anyways, but 3 bombs on a KD person? Scary.

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BenkeDuBir

Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:45 pm

#12

what level BH/Smuggler do you have to be to get these droids, ive thought of an awesome PVE template for killing high level stuff with low blast resists(which most dont have

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Nathanielstarr

Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:52 pm

#13

You guys are actually upset that a BH might be able to kill you?

Shouldn't that be a possibility?

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