Jedi Archive

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Av0idanc3 wrote:

Cloak is going tobe nerfed soon =(

1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).

2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)

3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command

4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others

5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)

6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)

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We need to talk to the Devs about this. Why cant they move this good skill to Master ? The BH are coplaing about it becasue they dont know how to win. Instead of nurfing it they need to move it to master.

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Oh really? You don't say...
btw moving to master is a BAD idea. As long as a post-cu jedi with a post-cu saber has NO chance against a good bh, there has to be a runaway ability that anyone can use.

Message Edited by KaliMaul on 09-18-2005 10:18 PM

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KaliMaul wrote:

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Av0idanc3 wrote:

Cloak is going tobe nerfed soon =(

1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).

2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)

3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command

4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others

5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)

6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)

Dev Post

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We need to talk to the Devs about this. Why cant they move this good skill to Master ? The BH are coplaing about it becasue they dont know how to win. Instead of nurfing it they need to move it to master.

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Oh really? You don't say...
btw moving to master is a BAD idea. As long as a post-cu jedi with a post-cu saber has NO chance against a good bh, there has to be a runaway ability that anyone can use.

Message Edited by KaliMaul on 09-18-2005 10:18 PM

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How can you runaway when it has a SNARE !!!! How can you heal when you cloak and are on fire/posion ? How can you heal when MOBS argo you "bug" and deal dammag?

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Av0idanc3 wrote:

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KaliMaul wrote:

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Av0idanc3 wrote:

Cloak is going tobe nerfed soon =(

1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot).

2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)

3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command

4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others

5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)

6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged)

Dev Post

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We need to talk to the Devs about this. Why cant they move this good skill to Master ? The BH are coplaing about it becasue they dont know how to win. Instead of nurfing it they need to move it to master.

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Oh really? You don't say...
btw moving to master is a BAD idea. As long as a post-cu jedi with a post-cu saber has NO chance against a good bh, there has to be a runaway ability that anyone can use.

Message Edited by KaliMaul on 09-18-2005 10:18 PM

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How can you runaway when it has a SNARE !!!! How can you heal when you cloak and are on fire/posion ? How can you heal when MOBS argo you "bug" and deal dammag?

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Err... that was what I was saying too. Neither nerfing cloak nor moving it to the master box improves the game anyhow.

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Av0idanc3 wrote:

Cloak is going tobe nerfed soon =(

1. Taking any offensive action reveals you instantly (currently the only exception is the Rifleman's ability Conceal Shot). Thats the way it should be

2. Interacting with some objects in the world instantly reveals you (could be switches, terminals, containers, etc)

I use it for pvp anyways, lol

3. Some commands cannot be executed and require you to reveal yourself before executing the command.

/shrugg

4. All of these buffs can be "toggled off" at any time you wish to become view-able by others

Homie say WHAT!!!!!

5. Some non-combat actions can also reveal you (like healing for instance)

Depends if people use aoe traps. can.... if you heal others, then thats fine.. if its yourself it should be allowed

6. You are afflicted with a movement snare when you are stealthy (rooted when just camouflaged). I'll live

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We need to talk to the Devs about this. Why cant they move this good skill to Master ? The BH are coplaing about it becasue they dont know how to win. Instead of nurfing it they need to move it to master.

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#4 has got to go..

I disagree.. moving it to the Master box will eliminate a lot of dabblers and showboaters.... the Master Power jedi rely on it as a defense tactic... not for showing off

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savvylizzygirl wrote:

I disagree.. moving it to the Master box will eliminate a lot of dabblers and showboaters.... the Master Power jedi rely on it as a defense tactic... not for showing off

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WHAT'S WRONG WITH DABBLERS?! Do you want to force everyone to have a double mastery template? I mean how come a jedi can use armorbreak, aura, advanced heal, meditate and cloak.... oh those nasty little dabblers!

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savvylizzygirl wrote:

I disagree.. moving it to the Master box will eliminate a lot of dabblers and showboaters.... the Master Power jedi rely on it as a defense tactic... not for showing off

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And thats why every normie hates us....and thats why its being nerfed.

#2: Fix it so that a BH cannot /target /follow A cloaked person

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Their droid keeps giving a wp so it doesn't really matter. CM DOTs applied on a cloaked jedi is an exploit. BTW I agree, I don't care if I have to either run away or just sit and logout after cloaking but I want to be able to escape, not just being killed by aoe attacks.

I have a better idea, let's just completely remove cloak and give us back mind trick and animal attack, what will the point of having cloak be if these suggestions actually go through. Also let's not forget about those REAL master force wielders out there and not hte dabblers, including me... OUCH.

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KaliMaul wrote:

#2: Fix it so that a BH cannot /target /follow A cloaked person

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Their droid keeps giving a wp so it doesn't really matter. CM DOTs applied on a cloaked jedi is an exploit. BTW I agree, I don't care if I have to either run away or just sit and logout after cloaking but I want to be able to escape, not just being killed by aoe attacks.

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The droids take 30 seconds between updates. But with /target and/or /follow, They can stay pretty much on your tail. We're talking about the difference betwen 5 seconds and 30 seconds. To me, that extra 25 second lead could save my life.