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Thread: Player bug? with cool down timer? -or- am I just misunderstanding something here?
its out of hand...80% of people pvp'ing..least on my serverare doing it..jedi and non-jedi alike that i used to have respect for are using it. its a shame..says alot about someone character. im assuming they think that since so many use it then nothing will be done to them..and they are probably right.
HardwiredXMan wrote:
This is a /bug that is extremely reproducable. Any profession can use this /bug with any special ability including healing, DOTS, power attacks, everything. The issue has been submitted to the devs about a week ago to my knowledge by a few people. So It will probably be a while before we see a hot fix for it....however, if it starts to get out of hand, the devs may jump on it a bit quicker so for anyone experiencing this kind of thing happening to them (or your doing it to another player by accident of course), then you should report it to the devs quick. It's the only way to get it fixed sooner than later.
Before it wasn't such a huge problem becuase it was not known exactly how to reproduce it, but it was happening and unless you were the type of person to pay attention to every little detail of what your doing in combat (checking combat spam, the timing of attacks and type of attacks), then you probably would not have known there is an issue. Unfortunately I believe that since a few people have brought this /bug to the attention of the forums instead of keeping quiet and submitted it to the devs only, they have only exposed players seeking any advantage they can get and it has cause many players to try and learn how to reproduce the /bug at will. The fact is that it's so easy to do (you can do it with one finger...LOL) that people seem to be finding and using it a lot now.
For future reference, my advice to players is that when you find a /bug that's like this one. Submit reports to the devs, CSR's or correspondents "ONLY". Keep the knowledge that the bug even exist out of the public forums for if you do post it, it will only open the flood gates of people finding and reproducing the /bug and that's when the playing experience is ruined for many players.
I'm all for alerting players of game breaking /bugs to protect themselves from losing items and such (like the weapon decay /bug or the /bug that allowed a player to /open characters inventory and take their items that we had in the past). Those kinds of /bugs should be brought to the attention of players, but /bugs like this current one should not in my opinion.
are lapsed time in seconds from the previous action I have highlighted in red areas where less than a 4s cooldown occured. Yes, I noticed when I clicked between two hits for Tanda quickly she may well have landed a hit because of a "bug?" as well...
Message Edited by LordBluefire on 09-01-2005 08:35 PM
Bah! I give up on trying to get the line spaces the way I want. Too much work to get that right, then go to html edit and put in the clickies, then post and find some of the hard returns/<divs> are changed. LOL!
Anyone have thoughts, opinions?
Thanks!
its out of hand...80% of people pvp'ing..least on my serverare doing it..jedi and non-jedi alike that i used to have respect for are using it. its a shame..says alot about someone character. im assuming they think that since so many use it then nothing will be done to them..and they are probably right.
HardwiredXMan wrote:
This is a /bug that is extremely reproducable. Any profession can use this /bug with any special ability including healing, DOTS, power attacks, everything. The issue has been submitted to the devs about a week ago to my knowledge by a few people. So It will probably be a while before we see a hot fix for it....however, if it starts to get out of hand, the devs may jump on it a bit quicker so for anyone experiencing this kind of thing happening to them (or your doing it to another player by accident of course), then you should report it to the devs quick. It's the only way to get it fixed sooner than later.
Before it wasn't such a huge problem becuase it was not known exactly how to reproduce it, but it was happening and unless you were the type of person to pay attention to every little detail of what your doing in combat (checking combat spam, the timing of attacks and type of attacks), then you probably would not have known there is an issue. Unfortunately I believe that since a few people have brought this /bug to the attention of the forums instead of keeping quiet and submitted it to the devs only, they have only exposed players seeking any advantage they can get and it has cause many players to try and learn how to reproduce the /bug at will. The fact is that it's so easy to do (you can do it with one finger...LOL) that people seem to be finding and using it a lot now.
For future reference, my advice to players is that when you find a /bug that's like this one. Submit reports to the devs, CSR's or correspondents "ONLY". Keep the knowledge that the bug even exist out of the public forums for if you do post it, it will only open the flood gates of people finding and reproducing the /bug and that's when the playing experience is ruined for many players.
I'm all for alerting players of game breaking /bugs to protect themselves from losing items and such (like the weapon decay /bug or the /bug that allowed a player to /open characters inventory and take their items that we had in the past). Those kinds of /bugs should be brought to the attention of players, but /bugs like this current one should not in my opinion.
Anistasio, you know why everyone is using it....it's because everyone is using it. If everyone around you is using something that gives them an advantage over you and you know you have the ability to use that advantage also, your gonna use it because if you don't, your chances of being competitive or winning is slim and none.
Point is that it takes real integrity to enter a pvp fight where this /bug is being used on you and you refuse to use it yourself. Your probably gonna lose the fight, but that's the choices people have and unfortunately most people are not willing to just throw in the towel.
Put it this way, (being reminded of katrina and new orleans right now).....before the hurricane hit, I am willing to bet there are people in new orleans that would never steal or loot....but afterwards, seeing the situation they are in, they have no choice but to loot food and such or lay down and die. Now that's more serious than this game but the same principles is there. In game, if you choose not to use this widely available /bug that you know is being used against you, then you are basically hurting your own chances of winning.
They do 7.5k damage to you in 5 seconds.
You keep your integrity and play the way it's supposed to be done but your only doing 3k damage in 5 seconds.
Guess who will win if the fight continues this way.
I don't agree with using it, but I will be damn if I don't use it ifa BH comes for me and is using it......However, I'm not pvping now days. I'm too busy grinding, not really gaining loads of vis either so haven't had a BH come for me...so no pvp. So it's kinda easy for me not to use this /bug.
HardwiredXMan wrote:
Anistasio, you know why everyone is using it....it's because everyone is using it. If everyone around you is using something that gives them an advantage over you and you know you have the ability to use that advantage also, your gonna use it because if you don't, your chances of being competitive or winning is slim and none.
Point is that it takes real integrity to enter a pvp fight where this /bug is being used on you and you refuse to use it yourself. Your probably gonna lose the fight, but that's the choices people have and unfortunately most people are not willing to just throw in the towel.
Put it this way, (being reminded of katrina and new orleans right now).....before the hurricane hit, I am willing to bet there are people in new orleans that would never steal or loot....but afterwards, seeing the situation they are in, they have no choice but to loot food and such or lay down and die. Now that's more serious than this game but the same principles is there. In game, if you choose not to use this widely available /bug that you know is being used against you, then you are basically hurting your own chances of winning.
They do 7.5k damage to you in 5 seconds.
You keep your integrity and play the way it's supposed to be done but your only doing 3k damage in 5 seconds.
Guess who will win if the fight continues this way.
I don't agree with using it, but I will be damn if I don't use it ifa BH comes for me and is using it......However, I'm not pvping now days. I'm too busy grinding, not really gaining loads of vis either so haven't had a BH come for me...so no pvp. So it's kinda easy for me not to use this /bug.
you know what the really disappointing thing is, The devs will simply end up nerfing speed so bad we will be stuck attacking once every 5 seconds max...loleither that or they will just say screw it because everyone is using it and has access to it and that doesn't exactly make it unfair or unbalanced. If you had to do some extra stuff to get the advantage, it would be another story, but all you have to do is press buttons, nothing more. So even the devs can't say someone is doing it on purpose....about the only indication someone is doing it on purpose is when you read their combat log and see 4, 5, 6 or more of the same attacks in a row all within 2 - 3 seconds of each other.
I won't jump to conlcussions though....I think the devs can still fix it since it obviously has to do with timers. Checks can be put into place to prevent it just like the checks that see if you already have a certain buff and won't allow you to do another buff of the same type until the timer runs out. So a check can be put into place where you won't be allowed to fire off that same special again regardless of other cooldown timers.