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Thread: att Powers users !

Nekra
Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:57 pm
#1

Have you been able to kill a bh lately using nothing but powers? Before this last patch I have killed every bh that came for me with powers, I have no light sabre. The last 3 BH's that came have all been your garden varity master range master bh cm4000.


They easliy tanked me for the whole 75 seconds my force lasted, then i had to fr3 and cloak. This is crazydabbling in healing is way overpowered and has been since the healing pass 3 weeks after the Cu. but at least I had enough force to fight for 2 minutes.


Is this happening to others powers users?

In a flat out fight with out channeling how long does it take to get you to 10% of force?


Thanks for your input.
Nekra
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:09 am
#2

anyone
mero909
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:25 am
#3

I've not had an issue with any BHs since the last publish though I've noticed a drop in Force regen rates. But I still wiped out a CM yesterday.


Of course, I'm a regular user of Saber Hit between my force attacks and a regular user of channel every 10 attacks or so.


Though the regen rates still didn't seem horrible. Though I'd like a bit of a bump in damage output from Powers. Maybe removing zip bars would be nice. Especially to Lightning and giving us an armor break (maybe Force Weaken?). That's pretty much all I ask for to make Powers an excellent solo offense tree.


Just thoughts, don't expect it to actually happen.




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Wolf24601
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:38 am
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Something changed...some algorithm was altered or a butterfly was added to the deserts of Tatooine whose fluttering wings are causing a storm. But, there is something amiss. My guess is that the BHs are just learning from each other and maximizing their efficiency against our comparative weaknesses. No...I'm not saying exploits...its just that the healing has gotten silly. In our case,our healing is substandard,in their case they can heal really well, thus setting a new and excessive high standard for combat survival.


The new healing game is starting the same way the old buffing game began the year before last. Instead of SWG: Super Buffs it is now SWG: Super Heals. I'm not convincedthat Jediheals need to be increased...I would argue thedoc and cmheals need to be lowered significantly. Many would agree that the hour-long fights are not fun.


And I will type and type again, until carpal tunnel sets in, that Jedi heals should be equal to any CM or Doc heal.


Wolf
Daeges
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:46 am
#5

My force bar is draining much faster it seems to me. I don't have imperical data because I have nothing recorded in hard data from previous, but I am spending a lot more time in force meditate and channelling that I used to. Note: my fellow jedis are not all complaining, so I think it might have something to do with the fact that I've recently changed one of my pearls.



IG Daeges

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mero909
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:47 am
#6

It just makes all Jedi need Master Defender even more. I tend to just wait out their mind bar before I unleash a God-aweful amount of damage. Just choke them until they heal themselves into oblivion. haha! That's the most fun way of killing a CM I've experienced.




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Hactar
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:52 am
#7

I've noticed this too, maybe our regen rate was lowered? Im not a powersuser but I'm a full template jedi and was unable to kill the last 6 BH that came for me, this was all in the last 24 hours... (this is not normal, normally i am able to kill a BH with ease)




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Nekra
Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:46 am
#8






Hactar wrote:
I've noticed this too, maybe our regen rate was lowered? Im not a powersuser but I'm a full template jedi and was unable to kill the last 6 BH that came for me, this was all in the last 24 hours... (this is not normal, normally i am able to kill a BH with ease)





Wow thought it was just powers.. When a sabers Jedi cant kill a BH whats the point. lol
Nekra
Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:47 am
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mero909 wrote:
It just makes all Jedi need Master Defender even more. I tend to just wait out their mind bar before I unleash a God-aweful amount of damage. Just choke them until they heal themselves into oblivion. haha! That's the most fun way of killing a CM I've experienced.






yea we are back to pre cu mind ruling the game again


one thing i noticed if i use foods and buffs my force drains faster then my mind and action. it just seems stupid to go thru 6500 force in about 3 minutes..


Message Edited by Nekra on 09-02-2005 12:48 PM

mero909
Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:15 am
#10

It's interesting to play the mind/action bar game. It's what I enjoy the most. I especially like when the BH likes to run only to realize that it's pointless since I can hit them from 32m out. Then if they go out of that range... *poof* cloaked.... Then *poof* decloak behind them w/ a choke. Powers can definitely be fun!




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Nekra
Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:22 am
#11






mero909 wrote:
It's interesting to play the mind/action bar game. It's what I enjoy the most. I especially like when the BH likes to run only to realize that it's pointless since I can hit them from 32m out. Then if they go out of that range... *poof* cloaked.... Then *poof* decloak behind them w/ a choke. Powers can definitely be fun!





have you been able to have fun lately? for me after pub 23 im the one drained and the bh is having a blast. May be i am doing something wrong or they have just gotten better but I was rockin before this last publish.Could just be a coincedence I dunno
Jaden-awrif
Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:10 pm
#12

Yup, happening to
If i would stand and fight, around 3 to 5 mins. I guess.
mero909
Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:05 am
#13


I wasted a BH/CM and a BH/Ranger (don't laugh, he was a nice guy) yesterday with ease. Force Management is so important that some Jedi forget about it. I'm guilty of that mistake as well!


Too many Jedi, fighting BHs, make the mistake of playing againstthe opponent'shealth bar.Watching the opponent'shealth bar move up and down only drains you of your purple bar (which is your very LIFE). Play against their action and mind bars. Use attacks that force them to heal, but don't use attacks that just drain your force. Lower costs force attacks (or saber attacks for our LSfriends), FTW. Then when their mind/action bars are extremely low...hit 'em with the heavy stuff. That's how I typically overpower any opponent. Food or not. I don't care how much Mind regeneration they have....It only prolongs the inevitable.


Personal mood seems to be a key as well. The more calm you are during the battle, the less mistakes you will make. (a shot of vodka always helps!)


That, my friends, is how you can win against BHs and just about any other profession, including Jedi.


Don't fight their health bars! Fight their Action/Mind Bars, FTW!


**edited** For spelling and grammar. Proof Read, FTW!


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