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Thread: Newbie Jedi Temp idea

NameWithheld
Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:48 am
#1

Lookin for some feedback on this temp Idea. Basically I wanted to incorporate FRun and Cloak for escape from BH etc until I can get more skills in PvP. I haven't PvPed hardly at all before unlocking so while I learn and die I'd rather it not be to a BH with my mission. Here's what I'm thinking...


LS x4x4

Def 444x

Pow x4xx

Enh 4xx2

Heal 4xxx


Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure that's what I came up with last night on the prof calc. I think it left me with like 5 SP left over or something. I don't have the prof calc with me (i'm at work) so I can't check it now.


Any criticisms or tips for what I should drop, what I should add?


I've heard good and bad things about going with no mastery, but I figure I'll drop things like cloak and maybe some celerity later on when I'm a little more comfortable with PvP. I don't need to win every time...but I'd like to win once in a while.


All advice (even an entirely diff temp if appropriate) are welcome. Just keep in mind I'm looking for an escape artist temp that I can still have some fun with and maybe get my feet wet in PvP more on my own terms (i.e. duels, events...anything without xp loss).





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ffdemt
Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:10 am
#2

I'd suggest dropping ENH to either 3002 or 2002...FR2 is a waste...with the heals you can outrun most BH till you can cloak and escape. ENH 2002 gives you root. Root and run and FR1 doesn't decrease your damage output in case you have to fight



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NameWithheld
Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:13 am
#3

Thanks for the advice. I'll definately look into that. One question i have in response though is doesn't FR2 have a damage reduction to go with it? I may have misunderstood the description but I thougt FR had an increase to speed and TN, while FR2 had an increase to speed, a larger increase to TN, and a 99% damage mitigation. Is this all wrong? Can't remember if I read it on the skill calc or in a post.





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lovisa
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:24 am
#4

as i see it you need one master skill to get the force up or you will loose force to much to fast in my experiance



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chelseascum
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:29 am
#5

Yes, FR2 has a damage reduction on it - I'm not sure how much it is, but something in the region of 80-90% I think. There is a way of using FR2 with no damage reduction, but this is an exploit, and I don't know how to use it anyway, so I couldn't tell you even if I wanted to.
lovisa
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:30 am
#6

if he going for this temp then i would save FR2 becourse there is nothing else to put the sp on and you can use burst run food instead of FR1



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NameWithheld
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:10 am
#7

Oh...I just realized I had the whole damage reduction thing backwards. I thought it was a reduction of incomming damage (to make running away more effective heh) I didn't even think about the fact that I read in all kinds of guides "make sure to turn of FR2 when fighting" because the damage reduction is actually on the OUTPUT. heh


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sionide
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:43 am
#8

is this an escape only template? where's your damage coming from? especially if you're a new jedi and the prel/crystal drops are broken...dont think you saber can do much with that ls template.



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NameWithheld
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:04 am
#9

I just want a temp that will help me survive long enough to learn how to PvP with a jedi so that I don't became a BH's wet dream. Once I can hold my own in PvP i was plannin to become MLS and MDef. But...that's a long ways off I think.





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sionide
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:07 am
#10

well I'll tell you from now, that template will make you hate jedi more than anything...go for mls/md right now and start practicing...cause those are 2 totally different templates. your offense will be much greater with mls since you have more attacks to cycle and of coarse blind and extra speed and dmg. also with md you wont use as many heals and defenses would be enough for you to hold your own.


but just my 2c, good luck





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eternalfool
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:09 am
#11

Unless you have your token respec left you shouldnt be thinking in terms of changing temp after you finish, especially if you have little pvp experience.


You will lose a LOT of xp before you learn to kill bhs with your temp if you dont know pvp, this will hurt when changing temp; not to mentio nthat you'll have to relearn your skills..


If you want mls mdef then do it now, dont do this weird crap first





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lovisa
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:32 am
#12






eternalfool wrote:

Unless you have your token respec left you shouldnt be thinking in terms of changing temp after you finish, especially if you have little pvp experience.


You will lose a LOT of xp before you learn to kill bhs with your temp if you dont know pvp, this will hurt when changing temp; not to mentio nthat you'll have to relearn your skills..


If you want mls mdef then do it now, dont do this weird crap first







can not agree more



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NameWithheld
Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:07 am
#13

Thanks for the tips guys. I do have my token respec left. My plan was to get Enc4xxx and Powxx4x first for escape and then basically work toward my end tep (something with MLS MD) and then use my token respec one I get as far as I can without trading in Cloak and FR. I hear a lot of talk about the usefullness of Meditate and Channel. Is it true that without Channel I'll be screwed? If i end up with a temp like MLS MD Heal4xxx i dont think it'd leave room for any enhancer.





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