Jedi Archive

Thread: Is Improved Force Sap worth it ?

MasterMarksmen
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:50 am
#1

I'm thinking about dropping either def 4xxx or x4xx for healer xx4x. Would it be worth it to lose the melee/ranged defense plus innate armor for improved sap ?



__________________________________________________________________

IGN: Haxiom/Moi'xah
Paulo187
Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:53 am
#2

in my opinion no. sap doesnt do enough for me, especially in PvE. if you are going to drop def 4xxx or x4xx then drop x4xx because the ranged def doesnt help jedi at all the way it currently works



Fame Edigi - Dark Jedi Padawan

Imperial 4 life, member of LUNA

Pain is just weakness leaving your body!


Aulendil
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:21 am
#3

I heard its good against MCM/BH.










infinity gauntlet () radiant.aulendil () radiant.skibror () radiant.chebalis
space loot vendor : -5075, -6004 outside wayfar/tatooine

KRAKEN666
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:21 am
#4

you might want to consider it if the changes in the test center goes through...In the test center the combat medics and docs are getting higher mind/action costs which will kill a bh's offensive and healing skills. If they play the way they are used too, this means that mind and action bars take greater hits (some up to 3 times what is being used now). Sap will be a great benifit if the bh are spamming attacks and heals because of the extra costs. Sap is great if you use it right. I apply it in the beginning of a fight because a bh tries to kill you fast and he expends alot of mind and action right off the bat. Then i just wait till he gets low again then reapply it. Then just wait him out. Works every time. Alot of bh are saying the fights will take longer, which is bad thinking on their part. If they cant spam attacks, we dont have to use up force defending which actually gives us more time to and force to plan better attacks.
trifidac
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:29 am
#5

Mind cost is still the same on TC but action cost indeed went up 3 times more, bacta shot is like 15%, spray is I think is 20% and toss I think is also 15%, sap may become a use again on those guys.

But prepare for a new "FOTM" BH template after this.




pacobigcheese wrote:
youre like a friendly hampsterball of doom


KamuroGE
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:38 am
#6

i got improved in mytemplate and it kills bhs also jedi in duels in 1 on 1 its worth in mass pvp or pve useless



you don't know the power of the DumDiDum
MasterMarksmen
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:11 am
#7

Thanks for the feedback




__________________________________________________________________

IGN: Haxiom/Moi'xah
Durzel
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:13 am
#8

I hit a MCM with it as soon as he attacked me (and missed, fortunately). Don't think he noticed because he just went through his usual rigmarole of applying paralyze, trauma, etc. After I had attacked him a few times and he was in a healing pattern he had less than 1/4 mind left, and that was less than 2 minutes into the fight.

So, it's nice.

Useful against Jedi only to hamper their action really, as mind is seldom a concern for them.

Message Edited by Durzel on 10-10-2005 03:14 PM



333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333
333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Dracz / Jashin Acroyear / Ikarus Sterling
Pre-pub 9 Jedi
- Intrepid (email)


lovisa
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:18 am
#9

i have SAP and i find it very useful

not only for the mind reduction but also for action reduction as when you KD some one it take alot of action to stand again wich

make the BH or anyone stick to the ground for a few more sec wich i find nice



---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wepon/artisan/BE vendors outside cornet (farstar)
/waypoint -323 -5620
Talus Two rivers -6221 1763 (deliver my winnings here)
loads of ENHANCED wepons
all wepons made by 12pts force enhanced weponsmiths



INGAME NAME LOVISA
matthaustoplar
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:34 am
#10

sap and shock are great mcm bh but every skill has a weakness



Matthaus,Freon,Matthaus,F
reon,Matthaus,Freon,MatthMATTHAUS TOPLAR jedi knight
aus,Freon,Matthaus,Freon,
Matthaus,Freon,Matthaus,FCAAT BISH outwitting bh
reon,Matthaus,Freon,Matth
aus,Freon,Matthaus,Freon,'another 'toplar Master shipwight/archi
Matthaus,Freon,Matthaus,F
reon,Matthaus,Freon,Matthvendor @ 4125 -856 New Zion Talus
aus,Freon,Matthaus,Freon,
Matthaus,Freon,Matthaus,Factively NOT exploiting since june 04
reon,Matthaus,Freon,Matth
MasterMarksmen
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:13 am
#11

I almost have the xp banked to make the change (drop def x4xx forsap) but i'm a bit concerned because i'll be losing 1200 innate armor. I have read that all you need is improved aura for defense.



__________________________________________________________________

IGN: Haxiom/Moi'xah
MasterSheep
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:28 am
#12

sap is kinda like menh statis - in that 1v1 its a killer move - however in large pve/pvp it much less effective



Force Sensitive Crafting Master
Master Freelance Pilot
-Jedi -

Guns n Roses Weaponry @ -2971 +0147 on Naboo
mindspat
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:58 am
#13






MasterMarksmen wrote:

I'm thinking about dropping either def 4xxx or x4xx for healer xx4x. Would it be worth it to lose the melee/ranged defense plus innate armor for improved sap ?




Keep Defender xx4x if you can. The +500 defense is priceless!





Pick me !!

Brought to you by Mindspat®
Page 1 of 2
Previous Next