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KodeeKreetlerider
Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:06 pm
#1
This petition is for the jedi that have felt taken
advatange of because of the CU. Here are some problems
that jedi would like to discuss...
advatange of because of the CU. Here are some problems
that jedi would like to discuss...
1)LIGHTSABERS are so weak now that they can hardly stand a chance against BH weapons ESPECIALLY if the jedi is weak.
2)VISIBILITY to BH is a major problem. Jedi that are not full templates are getting on terminals because they cannot solo missions in which they are forced into grouping with others. Even hunting with other jedi we have gotten on the Terminals.
3)XP LOSS is Higher than it use to be and is rediculous. Some jedi are at the negative millions in experiance.
4)FORCE HEAL has been lagging when commanded. When a bounty hunter is attacking or in any PvP circumstance, this is a bad thing to happen because of death. In which either items are decayed or major XP is lost.
5)CRYSTALS are almost impossible to get at a good quality. Which makes our lightsabers weak once again.
6)BH areSuperior to the jedi. One BH can take out a non-full template jedi if they know how to use thier skills. BH are grouping and ganging up on the JEDI which makes the jedi have no chance at all. If this is to stay in action we the jedi would like to be able to group up and attack BH and have them LOSE SOMETHING. Jedi death makes the jedi feal Discraced and not want to play the game. The bounty hunters should have the same feeling when killed (because of loss of somthing that will take them time to get back).
This is a list of things thatthe guild SIN of
Shadowfire have discussed along with many other jedi.
This list is what we want the above list to change
to...
1)LIGHTSABERS: lightsabers should do a good amount of damage or go back to doing LIGHTSABER damage so that no one has protection against it except jedi (jedi defense skills).
2)VISIBILITY: Jedi should be able to hunt with other Jedi(same faction)or players of the same factionwithout becoming visible.
3)XP LOSS: XP loss is too high. Jedi would Like this to be changed to a Maximum of 100,000
4)FORCE HEAL: Jedi would like to be able to do this with out being afraid of it lagging and the jedi dieng.
5)CRYSTALS: Jedi would like a chance of a crystal drop from MOST lvl 80 npcs.
6)BH: BH should not be able to gang up on Jedi while we are this weak. BH should have it one on one with a jedi. ALSO if the BH is killed the JEDI should gain good jedi xp and the BH should lose a certian amount of money. That way the feeling is neutral. We would have mentioned xp but a BH can become Master BH without having to touch a jedi. Jedi have the threat of a BH coming and killing them at anytime. And if the BH are already MBH or where they want to be in BH then a loss in experiance is not a problem for them. But a loss of Credits is.
I believe that if this is changed to make jedi as fun as it use to be, then less people would sell thier jedi accounts online.
Thank you for your time and please if anyone agrees with me, please do say so by submitting a /sign. Thank you all and have a wonderful day.
1)LIGHTSABERS: lightsabers should do a good amount of damage or go back to doing LIGHTSABER damage so that no one has protection against it except jedi (jedi defense skills).
2)VISIBILITY: Jedi should be able to hunt with other Jedi(same faction)or players of the same factionwithout becoming visible.
3)XP LOSS: XP loss is too high. Jedi would Like this to be changed to a Maximum of 100,000
4)FORCE HEAL: Jedi would like to be able to do this with out being afraid of it lagging and the jedi dieng.
5)CRYSTALS: Jedi would like a chance of a crystal drop from MOST lvl 80 npcs.
6)BH: BH should not be able to gang up on Jedi while we are this weak. BH should have it one on one with a jedi. ALSO if the BH is killed the JEDI should gain good jedi xp and the BH should lose a certian amount of money. That way the feeling is neutral. We would have mentioned xp but a BH can become Master BH without having to touch a jedi. Jedi have the threat of a BH coming and killing them at anytime. And if the BH are already MBH or where they want to be in BH then a loss in experiance is not a problem for them. But a loss of Credits is.
I believe that if this is changed to make jedi as fun as it use to be, then less people would sell thier jedi accounts online.
Thank you for your time and please if anyone agrees with me, please do say so by submitting a /sign. Thank you all and have a wonderful day.
Eakon
Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:09 pm
#2
lots of typing but didn't you know that devs don't read petetions? the great CU petion with thousands of signatures failed and tiggs even posted that they don't read them. So looks liek alot of work for nadda 
KodeeKreetlerider
Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:17 pm
#3
really now? wow that sucks thanks for info..... im gonna change my sig to... well to get straight to the point.......
CU SUCKS!
thanks for info man now i gotta go back to the stupid jedi and grind off some negative xp so that 2 or 3 bh can come gang up on me cause bh cant solo me anymore (cept the pikeys they are some mean Mother F@<!<#$.) lol anyway i think im gonna stop playin my jedi and go play on another server and become partial jedi and partial bh so i can get on the terms then hunt myself=] .
Colbey98
Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:27 pm
#4
I would sign this if it helped... Your in SIN on Shadowfire? Tell Ombra Caliston says Hi
axiomBOTD
Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:31 pm
#5
actually yes. LS are very weak and the block rate is low also. Watching ep 3 seeing a young padawan blocking shots like crazy and how the way it used to be, it seems like a mls block rate is 30%. Ep 3 also the cone head jedi was attacked by blasters like crazy and even though he died he seemd to block 80% of the shots at him at point blank by 15 clones right there. Luke blocked all shots by a speeder in endor which likely has stronger blast rate also. So my thing is if you hit mls then you should be able to block at least 85%-90% blaster shots on a 1 v 1 and then decrease some as more follow.
Guessanditell
Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:37 pm
#6
OK....you should really read the forums a bit more...This was actually all discussed at fanfest and is posted for all to look at.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=955118
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=954024
This pretty much answers all of your so called protests. And for the record...BH's are sissy v jedi and even against jedi without full temps if you have the right abilities. Its all being looked at....SO READ 
Message Edited by Guessanditell on 06-11-2005 01:37 AM
Bodhidhala
Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:00 am
#7
P.S. And it should go without saying that I was never on the terms until I was forced into grouping for xp with the CU.
MasterJedi2003
Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:13 am
#9
most of you suggestions are great, except that you are forgetting something. SOE decided to give away jedi to anyone. It was created to be an elite pvp profession, this has changed. Your suggestions would work great but there are just too many jedi to do this at this point in the game, it would make every other profession pointless (combat professions that is).
Bodhidhala
Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:55 pm
#10
/sign
I'm not much of complainer and take my lumps pretty well, but these issues are spot on.
I lost 800k xp in two days (killed ONLY twice), experience that took me about 10 days to build up. When I was a BH *I* was the one getting ganked by my mark and whatever Jedi friends he had with him/come to his aid. Now that I am the Jedi, I'm getting ganked again.
If the goal of massive xp loss is population control, I dare say it is gonna work. I have never felt so much like going on to KOTOR 2 or back to my Half-Life or whatever. I know, the general feeling is "don't let the door hit ya on the way out," but I have to believe SOE prefers to keep its customers, especially its veterans. When a GAME becomes this "unfun" to play, I find myself questioning why I keep logging in. I never seriously considered quitting before, but at 400k xp loss a day, the question becomes "what is the point?"
And yes, I do have an alt. He is a doctor-artisan and already fully templated, so there is nothing for him to do either. His role was primarily to support my Jedi, but now there is not much point in doing that. SOE has to realize that what keeps people playing these kind of games is character progression, certainly not constant regression (that would be masochism, which, sadly, many of us are not so far from it seems).
The IDEA of bounty hunting is fine. But the massive xp loss is overkill. I'd much rather, for example, be able to spend a few 100k on "xp loss insurance" or some such than just have to eat it every time a BH realizes that I am high enough level to not be able to have rifleman skills (ANOTHER huge imbalance), but low enough to not yet be a fully templated Jedi. And fighting one-on-one, I can sometimes hold my own and come out on top, but 2 or more players on me spells instant death.
Anyway, I just want to continue to have fun playing this game. I worked hard for my Jedi; it'd be nice if I could now enjoy it.
I'm not much of complainer and take my lumps pretty well, but these issues are spot on.
I lost 800k xp in two days (killed ONLY twice), experience that took me about 10 days to build up. When I was a BH *I* was the one getting ganked by my mark and whatever Jedi friends he had with him/come to his aid. Now that I am the Jedi, I'm getting ganked again.
If the goal of massive xp loss is population control, I dare say it is gonna work. I have never felt so much like going on to KOTOR 2 or back to my Half-Life or whatever. I know, the general feeling is "don't let the door hit ya on the way out," but I have to believe SOE prefers to keep its customers, especially its veterans. When a GAME becomes this "unfun" to play, I find myself questioning why I keep logging in. I never seriously considered quitting before, but at 400k xp loss a day, the question becomes "what is the point?"
And yes, I do have an alt. He is a doctor-artisan and already fully templated, so there is nothing for him to do either. His role was primarily to support my Jedi, but now there is not much point in doing that. SOE has to realize that what keeps people playing these kind of games is character progression, certainly not constant regression (that would be masochism, which, sadly, many of us are not so far from it seems).
The IDEA of bounty hunting is fine. But the massive xp loss is overkill. I'd much rather, for example, be able to spend a few 100k on "xp loss insurance" or some such than just have to eat it every time a BH realizes that I am high enough level to not be able to have rifleman skills (ANOTHER huge imbalance), but low enough to not yet be a fully templated Jedi. And fighting one-on-one, I can sometimes hold my own and come out on top, but 2 or more players on me spells instant death.
Anyway, I just want to continue to have fun playing this game. I worked hard for my Jedi; it'd be nice if I could now enjoy it.
KodeeKreetlerider
Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:32 pm
#11
NICE Guessanditell!
Guessanditell wrote:
OK....you should really read the forums a bit more...This was actually all discussed at fanfest and is posted for all to look at.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=955118
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=954024
This pretty much answers all of your so called protests. And for the record...BH's are sissy v jedi and even against jedi without full temps if you have the right abilities. Its all being looked at....SO READ
Message Edited by Guessanditell on 06-11-200501:37 AM
Thanks for sharing that with me. I now feel that some issues have been fixed even ones like "high force cost" that I forgot to mention.
And thank you those who have complemented me. It helps the fact that I waisted my time = ]
But I have seen BH that have solo'd full temps. Actually about 10 BH. All though the Respec BH are mostly weak and easy. The BH that did not get bh by respec know what thier doing. so I will call u on that one = ]
SIN is watchin out for thier fellow jedi.
Spitfire911
Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:36 pm
#12
/sign because i agree w/ all of the above. Grinding jedi have a fear of losing to a BH because of XP loss, what fear do BH's have of losing. " Oh no i didn't get my payout." That's it, they dont lose ne thing, they just are dissapointed kuz they didn't get ne thing. Jedi should get something in return, or the BH's should lose something, giving them a little more thought into going up against a jedi and losing. My 2 cents.
traxtitan
Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:39 pm
#13
your an idiot, Fix crystal drops, thats about it
XP loss now is notthing compared to how it used to be, NOTTHING AT ALL
Saber? on tc i hit for almost 2k damage
there fine now with the elemental fix
ST.FU you noob jedi and learn your class before you comment on ways to change it
Jesus christ im tired of all these idiots wanting easy mode ...
XP loss now is notthing compared to how it used to be, NOTTHING AT ALL
Saber? on tc i hit for almost 2k damage
there fine now with the elemental fix
ST.FU you noob jedi and learn your class before you comment on ways to change it
Jesus christ im tired of all these idiots wanting easy mode ...
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