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Thread: So Squad Leaders can hit a FULL TEMPLATE JEDI for over 4000 damage now!

Adalie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:00 pm
#1

The last warning thread was deleted because of excessive trolling so behave you guys !


This is just a warning to all full template jedi..

Patch 24 now allows a full template jedi to be hit for 4000+ damage (1 shot incapped) by players using a combination of SL buffs and high damage shots.

Like.. examples.. MBH MSL 4000 rifles oranything with last ditch and MSL.

I wouldn't play on your jedi until this fiasco gets sorted out.

Last night lots of people were having this happen to them on ventrilo and its not just something that affects jedi.. it affects everyone.

You're especially in trouble if you dont have any ranged defense or armor..


anyways.. just wanted to warn everyone..



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ChefRubio
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:02 pm
#2

We did some extensive testing with arteous last night...hes not quite master yet, but a good portion of the shots fired were very recoverable if in a 1vs1 pvp situation.

Edit: PSG's and steak really reduced the effectiveness as well.

Message Edited by ChefRubio on 10-24-2005 05:03 PM



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Adalie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:02 pm
#3

Example!



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WookieOgre
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:06 pm
#4






ChefRubio wrote:

We did some extensive testing with arteous last night...hes not quite master yet, but a good portion of the shots fired were very recoverable if in a 1vs1 pvp situation.

Edit: PSG's and steak really reduced the effectiveness as well.

Message Edited by ChefRubio on 10-24-2005 05:03 PM





To be fair though there are Kinetic Rifles. If Steak wasn't on a 1 min timer that might actually be a legit tactic to prevent theincapon the initalalpha strike.
Genildor
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:07 pm
#5






Adalie wrote:
Example!





Last thread, i discussed my views on this. I didn't get to see the replies to it before it was deleted. Although i may be wrong, my testing has shown me nothing near this damage showed in these screenshots on actual jedi. Next time you do some testing, would you mind including the full screenshot to show what kind of profession/level player is getting hit? If it's still coming out the same kind of damage, i need to go back and try again. I can only get 2k tops with a max damage laser rifle on a jedi with only aura.



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Adalie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:10 pm
#6

this was on a master powers jedi with no armor..


aura suggests that the guy you were killing had more than the standard, so maybe thats why you were hitting for less..


still, 2k is pretty major.. no jedi can hit that hard. Its more than twice as hard as we can hit for, and almost 3 times harder than we can hit with no armorbreak..




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Fuelsean
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:22 pm
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Adalie wrote:
Here is a picture of a jedi with full armor getting hit for 7k damage ("only" 4k with armor)



For the love of Pete (who is Pete anyway), this was an example of the *perfect* LD shot. I have my doubts of the SL abilities used here, as we can't see them! See my post in the original thread.

Know your facts...





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Owet
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:34 pm
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Fuelsean wrote:

Adalie wrote:
Here is a picture of a jedi with full armor getting hit for 7k damage ("only" 4k with armor)

For the love of Pete (who is Pete anyway), this was an example of the *perfect* LD shot. I have my doubts of the SL abilities used here, as we can't see them! See my post in the original thread.

Know your facts...






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worpete
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:40 pm
#10



Fuelsean wrote:

Adalie wrote:
Here is a picture of a jedi with full armor getting hit for 7k damage ("only" 4k with armor)

For the love of Pete (who is Pete anyway), this was an example of the *perfect* LD shot. I have my doubts of the SL abilities used here, as we can't see them! See my post in the original thread.

Know your facts...






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DarkVader9
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:47 pm
#11

That 2k damage is two times the damage than when i was mrifle/mbh/npistoleer. I would hit for 1k to500 damage on jedi.


Had upper stims, ruby, armor, psg, a super great rifle 1309 damage pup with 345 base dps wihich later on broke on me but i don't care i have another rifle 1285 pup and sold the other upper rifles.


All my marks said i hit hard.


The way the buff from sl works nowmake hunting jedi more easyer unless when they attack a mark they both lose sl buffs but how can people say that .


Everyone is afected by this pvp ,duels and bh marks.



2k damage is riduculous.


Please no trools on this post. I am a jedi now full temp padawan post cu still haven't since a bh yet with that 2k to 4k damage.



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Adalie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:50 pm
#12






Fuelsean wrote:




Adalie wrote:
Here is a picture of a jedi with full armor getting hit for 7k damage ("only" 4k with armor)



For the love of Pete (who is Pete anyway), this was an example of the *perfect* LD shot. I have my doubts of the SL abilities used here, as we can't see them! See my post in the original thread.

Know your facts...








Hi squad leader,


im sorry, but no profession should have an attack that does 7000 damage. thats rediculous.


i dont understand how people can even argue for this





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Sundal
Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:03 pm
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Some of those screenshots are a bit sketchy, I'm not saying whether or not this is a problem, just that the screenshots that have been posted have been very shrewd.


From what I hear the BH TEF takes most of those buffs away from BH's that have SL in tow, same deal applies with Jedi that have SL helping them. This probably doesnt apply to duels or GCW which is why some of the screenshots posted have such high numbers.


The first example you posted the guy absorbed only 853 damage out of 5334, so that screenshot is pretty worthless.


The second screenshot was much better with the Jedi absorbing half the damage. But the second screenshot is from last ditch which lands only about 15% of the time.Not only that but the template in the second one seems a bit odd. Does that template even have MBH in it?


Here's a third screenshot taken from the BH forums, and my concerns about it. Maybe some people in this forum can make some sense of it also.





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1. What's the jedi in this screenshot's template?


2. Also I dont know much about Jedi armor, only from what I see when I fight them. I dont see any icons for force aura, what skill did this jedi activate? I see he has force speed, inspiration, and food/drink? Is that right? Maybe the food one was force armor, I'm not too familiar with it. But the fact that the Jedi's armor only absorbed 689 damage out of 2962kind of suggests he doesnt have very good defense...


3. This was a BH coming for a Jedi, and not just a duel right? (maybe the original poster can answer)


4. If it was a BH coming for the Jedi... there was 15 seconds between when he aimedand when he actually tried to shoot a sniper shot. During that time the Jedi did not do anything.


5. It doesnt look like the Jedi was grinding since there wasnt any damage log before the BH used aimed. If the Jediwas not grinding, why did he only have 2k of health? BH shot once and incapped the Jedi for 2k.Ajedi at full health wouldnt have died...(maybe the original poster can answer)


6. Why did the Jedi use power hit, he could have gotten in two hits for more damage instead of that one power hit. That might have incapped the BH, who was not healing at all apparently.


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I dont know about you, but the first 2 screenshots didnt tell me much. And the third one showed me the Jedi in question wasnt very good at pvp.


Are there any other screenshots out there that have more concrete information? Screenshots from real Jedi/MBH encounters, not just duels.
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