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Thread: Since Melee def applies when holding a LS, does Ranged Def apply while using Force powers?

Tanilith
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:15 am
#1
is that the way that works?



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da-bro
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:22 am
#2
Depends what you have in your hand.

Pistol/Rifle/Carbine = Ranged Weapon > Ranged Defence

Nothing = Unarmed > Melee Defence



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odwill
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:32 am
#3
right, only if your holding a pistol/rifle/carb



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Tanilith
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:22 am
#4

okay, so if this is true, which makes sense, then NO jedi tree should have "Ranged Defense" in it. (ie Defender and Aura) as this is a complete and utter waste. This also applies to the other professions as well, but at least there there is a possiblity that you could mix and match. Not with Jedi.



So clearly this is a bug and piss poor programing then.





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Gorthu
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:26 am
#5




Tanilith wrote:

okay, so if this is true, which makes sense, then NO jedi tree should have "Ranged Defense" in it. (ie Defender and Aura) as this is a complete and utter waste. This also applies to the other professions as well, but at least there there is a possiblity that you could mix and match. Not with Jedi.



So clearly this is a bug and piss poor programing then.







That depends on if you want to believe some past DEV comments. Which then means that the way melee defense & range defense is working, is bugged. OR if you think they are working right, then you are correct, ranged def would be useless to a Jedi and there is no need to have it in jedi trees.
Deaconzz
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:42 am
#6

hmmmmm


I always took it for melee def is def vs a melee attacker and ranged def was def vs a ranged foe.........Am I crazy?


minion100
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:42 am
#7

Tanilith wrote:

okay, so if this is true, which makes sense, then NO jedi tree should have "Ranged Defense" in it. (ie Defender and Aura) as this is a complete and utter waste. This also applies to the other professions as well, but at least there there is a possiblity that you could mix and match. Not with Jedi.

So clearly this is a bug and piss poor programing then.



Master defender/4000 healer/Master Carbines... makes sence to me?



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EAB
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:52 am
#8





Tanilith wrote:

okay, so if this is true, which makes sense, then NO jedi tree should have "Ranged Defense" in it. (ie Defender and Aura) as this is a complete and utter waste. This also applies to the other professions as well, but at least there there is a possiblity that you could mix and match. Not with Jedi.



So clearly this is a bug and piss poor programing then.







Theres your answer to this situation.



Im sure at some point the developers will write it off as "working as intended" and try to sweep it under the rug with many another miswritten code... but the original intent when handing out the skills to each proffession, and the original descriptions of these abilities when the CU went live all point to the fact that the melee/ranged defense numbers were intended to be "defense against" rather then "defense with".


And this hits many non jedi proffessions much harder then it does jedi.






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minion100
Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:11 pm
#9

furiogiunta wrote:
How dumb, guess I can take the skillpoints for that row and chuck them somewhere else. What would you guys suggest? Im currently: mls / 4000hlr / 3002 enh / 4440def. Perhaps getting the force armor?


force armor 4tw



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fireburt
Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:39 pm
#10
yeah its annoying..im pretty sure this is a bug or at least unintended. it effects every profession..bhs have useless melee defense, tka and other brawlers have a big stack of ranged defense. so assumeing its backwards and probably going to be fixed, i wouldnt retemplate based on it...otherwise youll be cheesed off when they fix it. besides you take x4xx defender for teh extra 12 or so innate armor, not for the ranged defense
xakia
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:47 pm
#11
Knowing SOE, your defense will be based off of melee def...but for the few seconds that zipbar is up..your def will be based off of ranged defense. It's just that cool.





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furiogiunta
Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:27 am
#12
To clarify here, for myself, my 0400 tree of defender is useless (minus the +12 innate armor)?



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minion100
Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:29 am
#13

furiogiunta wrote:
To clarify here, for myself, my 0400 tree of defender is useless (minus the +12 innate armor)?


That is correct, unless you're going to be using a rifle/ranged wepon regularly



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