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Thread: The Problem with Jedi's Apparent lack of Strength

-Darkstarr-
Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:11 am
#1






TheCapn2000 wrote:





-Darkstarr- wrote:





Liani wrote:

I have my pearls. My saber is not pre-cu uber, but pretty solid. I win more than I lose. Way more.


You don't get it though.....people ARE hunting for crystals and pearls, and they have posted the results of their efforts here. Lists of several HUNDRED tunes.....with flat out crappy results.


Like I said....equip a level 50 BH weapon and come find me. You beat me, we'll talk again.


For many Jedi , the power of our weapons IS the issue.


Also....if and when pearls and crystals and the speed bugs are fixed....look out. Lots of Jedi who learned to fight and win with inferior weapons are going to be rock solid pvpers. woot!








2 things: I've tuned OVER 100 crystals/pearls. Come to Shadowfire, I'll show you a house full of nothing but bad tunes.


Secondly: Speed is broken for non-Jedi as well When that's fixed, they will get better as well






hmmm....all my non-jedi toons shoot at their modified speed rate...only my jedi is affected by the speed bug...do you have posts reflecting this speed bug for other professions? I know other professions can take advantage of exploiting the cooldown timers but to me their speed is working properly...







There was a post about where the weapon will fire at the modded rate but the cooldowns limit it. I'll try to find it.





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-Darkstarr-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:08 am
#2



If you spent 4+ hours a day doing nothing but training to kill another player, preparing with the best foods, tactics, and weaponry, you're going to annhilate 99% of anyone you come across.


That is why Bounty Hunter's appear so strong. That said, I will admit that health buff crystals and Combat Medic's Thyroid Rupture are overpowered. However, most Jedi aren't prepared for a Bounty Hunter and get wiped to the floor because, guess what, the Bounty Hunter is prepared to fight a Jedi. Is the Jedi prepared for the Bounty Hunter? In almost ever case, no.


Take into account also that most post-CU Jedi ground AFK or in spin-groups, requiring the Jedi to learn very little of their template. Most Jedi's make the excuse that their pearls and crystals are sub par: I ran Bounty Hunter missions for 2 months(87 million credits in Bounties and loots)to fund my current equipment. How many Jedi do nothing but hunt Krayts for 2months or camp crystal-dropping mobs? You will find very few that did, and guess what? Those are the Jedi that waste Bounty Hunters with ease.


Point is: LEARN your template.'Strength' is only relative to the skill of the individual playing the character.


This isn't meant as a troll. This is a post from someone who played a Jedi for 9 months, then switched to the other side to hunt them. LEARN your template. BH"s aren't invincible.

Message Edited by -Darkstarr- on 10-17-2005 11:09 AM





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sli-aib
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:11 am
#3

Ahhhh not another learn your template post!!!!
istali
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:19 am
#4






sli-aib wrote:
Ahhhh not another learn your template post!!!!





QFE!

Gets on my pip aswell!




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Liani
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:23 am
#5

Dear MBH super Jedi killer,


Please equip a level 50 weapon.


Take my mission.


Come back and chat about your experience.


why? Because with many Jedi.....the lack of quality resources (pearls and crystals) has reduced our only weapon to a barely functional shadow of what it should be.


I agree that many new 'spinnner' Jedi need to learn their templates and gain experience fighting pvp. But in the same vein.....many BH have inflated kill rates based on fighting opponents who have inferior weapons.





Liani Ivy h Jedi Witch
Galactic Security Agency Riverbend, Nabooze
sli-aib
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:37 am
#6

Hmm.. you can normally tell the type of people who keep posting 'Learn your temp threads'. They are the same type of people who have links in their signature to the amount of people they have killed and comments like 'Best Pistoleer On Shadowfire'! lol
-Darkstarr-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:46 am
#7






Liani wrote:

Dear MBH super Jedi killer,


Please equip a level 50 weapon.


Take my mission.


Come back and chat about your experience.


why? Because with many Jedi.....the lack of quality resources (pearls and crystals) has reduced our only weapon to a barely functional shadow of what it should be.


I agree that many new 'spinnner' Jedi need to learn their templates and gain experience fighting pvp. But in the same vein.....many BH have inflated kill rates based on fighting opponents who have inferior weapons.







my saber is 525-622 max damage, 22 force cost. I was a pre-CU Jedi, yet 3 of the 4 pearls in my saber are post CU. Please don't use the "we don't have pearls" excuse. Most Jedi want to finish their template and go straight to pvp. Like I said, spend time (months) looking for pearls and crystals and you'll find the ones you need.





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Liani
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:49 am
#8

I have my pearls. My saber is not pre-cu uber, but pretty solid. I win more than I lose. Way more.


You don't get it though.....people ARE hunting for crystals and pearls, and they have posted the results of their efforts here. Lists of several HUNDRED tunes.....with flat out crappy results.


Like I said....equip a level 50 BH weapon and come find me. You beat me, we'll talk again.


For many Jedi , the power of our weapons IS the issue.


Also....if and when pearls and crystals and the speed bugs are fixed....look out. Lots of Jedi who learned to fight and win with inferior weapons are going to be rock solid pvpers. woot!






Liani Ivy h Jedi Witch
Galactic Security Agency Riverbend, Nabooze
TheCapn2000
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:52 am
#9






Liani wrote:

I have my pearls. My saber is not pre-cu uber, but pretty solid. I win more than I lose. Way more.


You don't get it though.....people ARE hunting for crystals and pearls, and they have posted the results of their efforts here. Lists of several HUNDRED tunes.....with flat out crappy results.


Like I said....equip a level 50 BH weapon and come find me. You beat me, we'll talk again.


For many Jedi , the power of our weapons IS the issue.


Also....if and when pearls and crystals and the speed bugs are fixed....look out. Lots of Jedi who learned to fight and win with inferior weapons are going to be rock solid pvpers. woot!







which will start another round of NERF THE JEDI cries....




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THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

-Darkstarr-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:54 am
#10






Liani wrote:

I have my pearls. My saber is not pre-cu uber, but pretty solid. I win more than I lose. Way more.


You don't get it though.....people ARE hunting for crystals and pearls, and they have posted the results of their efforts here. Lists of several HUNDRED tunes.....with flat out crappy results.


Like I said....equip a level 50 BH weapon and come find me. You beat me, we'll talk again.


For many Jedi , the power of our weapons IS the issue.


Also....if and when pearls and crystals and the speed bugs are fixed....look out. Lots of Jedi who learned to fight and win with inferior weapons are going to be rock solid pvpers. woot!








2 things: I've tuned OVER 100 crystals/pearls. Come to Shadowfire, I'll show you a house full of nothing but bad tunes.


Secondly: Speed is broken for non-Jedi as well When that's fixed, they will get better as well







||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Skyyr
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||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||"Always a pleasure to meet a Jedi..."
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||[300] Jedi Kills
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Miffo
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:57 am
#11

Quit lieing ,



An experieced mbh/mcm with 7K ris armorbreak sliced and you can kill em? he must've gotten KD bug or something , show me a fraps.... unless u wait till all his buffs and food drop it isnt possible



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TheCapn2000
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:57 am
#12






-Darkstarr- wrote:





Liani wrote:

I have my pearls. My saber is not pre-cu uber, but pretty solid. I win more than I lose. Way more.


You don't get it though.....people ARE hunting for crystals and pearls, and they have posted the results of their efforts here. Lists of several HUNDRED tunes.....with flat out crappy results.


Like I said....equip a level 50 BH weapon and come find me. You beat me, we'll talk again.


For many Jedi , the power of our weapons IS the issue.


Also....if and when pearls and crystals and the speed bugs are fixed....look out. Lots of Jedi who learned to fight and win with inferior weapons are going to be rock solid pvpers. woot!








2 things: I've tuned OVER 100 crystals/pearls. Come to Shadowfire, I'll show you a house full of nothing but bad tunes.


Secondly: Speed is broken for non-Jedi as well When that's fixed, they will get better as well






hmmm....all my non-jedi toons shoot at their modified speed rate...only my jedi is affected by the speed bug...do you have posts reflecting this speed bug for other professions? I know other professions can take advantage of exploiting the cooldown timers but to me their speed is working properly...




«Sirros» «Dirrk» «Odin'»
THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

KRAKEN666
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:03 am
#13

It is too straining on a proffesion to make them weak and then force them to depend on a limited force bar to fight themselves out of situations. One or the other has to go...I vote force bar. Being weak isnt half as bad as having a limiting factor that bh can take constant advantage of....
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