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Thread: Beating a BH as a MPower's

im_mariee
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:41 am
#1

I am wondering if there is any advice i can get to beating a BH.

My temp is M Powers, enh3402, def 4040, heal4000.

I know that fighting a BH as M Powers is different then fighting one as M Saber.

I dont know many M Power's to ask though.





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HashiEno
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:52 am
#2

choke helps a lot, but use weaken first. as a ranged jedi you will want to keep soemthing quick and mobile on auto-attack, like mindblast or force strike or something. then use suppression and force wave to control them while keeping choke and intimidate applied. i hear pyro helps a lot, but i havent used it myself.


so, im trying to adapt tactics to your template, which is a little different than mine. in addition to master powers i use a saber 0404, so i keep saber throw auto-attacked and also keep them ab'd. im not sure how much different its going to be for you, but you might want to swap a line of defender out for 4040 in healer, or maybe drop defender all together and go 4040 healer and add more enhancer. basically, im not sure that having all those extra defenses is really necessary against bh since you will either face a fairly normal one in which case imp. force armor from enhancer is good enough, or else you will face one of the unbeatables that you arent going to beat anyway.


in any case, powers needs a little help from either sap or ab from sabers. it might be hard with just pure powers for dps. but i'd check out the pyro.
Sparkalot
Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:58 am
#3

And it's also always nice to pop-up with a rifle and scare the bejesus out of them every once and awhile too
for those of us without sabers =)



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im_mariee
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:47 am
#4

ok thx for advice

Think i will look into healxx4x



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mero909
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:10 am
#5






HashiEno wrote:

choke helps a lot, but use weaken first. as a ranged jedi you will want to keep soemthing quick and mobile on auto-attack, like mindblast or force strike or something. then use suppression and force wave to control them while keeping choke and intimidate applied. i hear pyro helps a lot, but i havent used it myself.


so, im trying to adapt tactics to your template, which is a little different than mine. in addition to master powers i use a saber 0404, so i keep saber throw auto-attacked and also keep them ab'd. im not sure how much different its going to be for you, but you might want to swap a line of defender out for 4040 in healer, or maybe drop defender all together and go 4040 healer and add more enhancer. basically, im not sure that having all those extra defenses is really necessary against bh since you will either face a fairly normal one in which case imp. force armor from enhancer is good enough, or else you will face one of the unbeatables that you arent going to beat anyway.


in any case, powers needs a little help from either sap or ab from sabers. it might be hard with just pure powers for dps. but i'd check out the pyro.





Yes, absolutely!


I'm a MPowers / MDefender and i rarely have any problem w/ BHs....any of them. Just get your ranged speed up as high as you can and use Pyro. Get the best you can find...I found a +210 ranged Acc one. You'll notice an immediate difference!




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Mythrindir
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:26 am
#6

mpowers jedi are often a lot harder than MLS because they have such a good damage output against non jedi. ls 0400/mpowers can do insane dmg against a bh...i've been hit with lightning for over 1500 when armourbroken.



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evhorizon
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:36 am
#7



Sparkalot wrote:
And it's also always nice to pop-up with a rifle and scare the bejesus out of them every once and awhile too
for those of us without sabers =)



You can't use guns in coorilation with Powers anymore.





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DiKan
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:43 am
#8


You can't use guns in coorilation with Powers anymore.

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I still keep a laser rifle in the toolbar, though. One bh that came for me figured out after a few minutes that he could get out of range of my lightning and choke. So, I hit the rifle for a second, fired off a few shots, and unequipped to go back to powers. The bh in question seemed a little shocked, and started spaz-kiting all over the place....right over a hill into a kryat.


I have a pwrs/def template. Longer duels, but it can definately be done. Main thing I've noticed is to let your opponent wear down their bars a bit, and then hit the lightning. If you go overboard on that the action costs will eat ya up.

Message Edited by DiKan on 11-02-2005 11:50 AM



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SoloBacca1
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:48 am
#9






evhorizon wrote:





Sparkalot wrote:

And it's also always nice to pop-up with a rifle and scare the bejesus out of them every once and awhile too
for those of us without sabers =)





You can't use guns in coorilation with Powers anymore.




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chewboywa
Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:38 am
#10

Do not use weaken early, pick up a crate of Denutrium-Pyro between 205-210 ranged accuracy and as soon as you land a force knockdown then drink one of those and do a choke and you will be able to choke them for around 530 to 600 a tick with as high as 1250 initial damage. Use weaken when they are close to incap and knock them down before doing a weaken first and a weaken will amost garauntee an incap since it debiliates about 300 health. Mind blast and intimidate and using Exo-Protiene are also a good tool to use if they are doing a good deal of damage to you.



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im_mariee
Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:42 am
#11

lot of info thanks all



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Podensky
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:13 pm
#12

general ranged speed ca do not work for powers...



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AnadElgoff
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:40 pm
#13






mero909 wrote:






HashiEno wrote:

choke helps a lot, but use weaken first. as a ranged jedi you will want to keep soemthing quick and mobile on auto-attack, like mindblast or force strike or something. then use suppression and force wave to control them while keeping choke and intimidate applied. i hear pyro helps a lot, but i havent used it myself.


so, im trying to adapt tactics to your template, which is a little different than mine. in addition to master powers i use a saber 0404, so i keep saber throw auto-attacked and also keep them ab'd. im not sure how much different its going to be for you, but you might want to swap a line of defender out for 4040 in healer, or maybe drop defender all together and go 4040 healer and add more enhancer. basically, im not sure that having all those extra defenses is really necessary against bh since you will either face a fairly normal one in which case imp. force armor from enhancer is good enough, or else you will face one of the unbeatables that you arent going to beat anyway.


in any case, powers needs a little help from either sap or ab from sabers. it might be hard with just pure powers for dps. but i'd check out the pyro.





Yes, absolutely!


I'm a MPowers / MDefender and i rarely have any problem w/ BHs....any of them. Just get your ranged speed up as high as you can and use Pyro. Get the best you can find...I found a +210 ranged Acc one. You'll notice an immediate difference!





So..would a good temp for PvP/BH be MPowers/MDef/ Heal 4x4x?



I was thinking just riding out some damage while sap slows down their regen, the go for the KD/Lightning/Choke stuff..


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