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battosai20
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:01 pm
#1
I was going to flame you, but there is no point in beating a dead horse.
It's simple.
Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem, ever heard of Kashykk, yeah we can't hunt you there with our droids, just a thought.
Darkknight109
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:05 pm
#2
battosai20 wrote:
Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem.
That's nigh on impossible if you want to do anything except grind out a template. Want to do a quest? Vis. Go on a DWB raid? Vis. Go on a loot hunt? Vis.
See what I'm getting at? Sure, I can stay off the terminals, but that's because I still have some non-Jedi combat skills. I'm gonna hate myself in the next few weeks, cuz it's getting to the point where I'm gonna have to give those skills up....
And to the OP, asking for the DEVs to fix something without nerfing it is like turning lead into gold. Not gonna happen...
Message Edited by Darkknight109 on 09-22-2005 01:06 PM
Dlek_Krego
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:07 pm
#3
the only reason you only hear about Jedi exploiting is because anything a Jedi does is an exploit, anything a BH does is only "Good tactics."
Wosa wrote:
It seems as if anyone that says anything about a profession gets it ruined, In all the posts I read, Not one or at least two of them said the problem with cloak was that people got away from BH, Infact it was not even that big of an Issure on the BH boards. Nearly all the complaints were about the NPC agro and the Cloaked DWB exploiting or the cloaked loot camping.
So whats with the snare? Its like Avoid Incap, Who asked for snare on that? No one.. The HUGE force cost should have been eough, But I am getting off topic and that is old news.
It just seems to me that the people that ask for a fix end up ruining the whole skill, Ok, a few people are exploiting, I hate them as much as the next guy, But now we have lost an entire skill because of the people calling FIX.
I wish they would fix the problems without adding negative effects.
All the ways that BH are cheating and doing wrong, and on our boards we only hear about jedi exploiting, I find something wrong with that.
Its just my two cents,
Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 09-22-2005 01:11 PM
Dlek_Krego
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:11 pm
#4
battosai20 wrote:
It's simple.
Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem, ever heard of Kashykk, yeah we can't hunt you there with our droids, just a thought.
Is this the ONLY response you have? I mean come on, this is the second thread I have read this trash from you in the last hour... Get some new lines, this logic died out with the old system.
Hulke
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:16 pm
#5
Im not saying that cloak necessarily needed a snare effect. However, it was being used inapproprietly. Between the exploiting and the cloak then run away it needed to be fixed. All I can say is that something had to be done.
What would be constructive is if you had a better idea to stop the exploiting and escaping.
SiNNaTaS
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:16 pm
#6
battosai20 wrote:I was going to flame you, but there is no point in beating a dead horse.It's simple.Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem, ever heard of Kashykk, yeah we can't hunt you there with our droids, just a thought.
Ok so you say go to kashykk. Great all the jedi will move to kashykk and will still get on the terms due to most of the content is NPC based. Well minus the Unsories. So now that all the jedi are on kashykk and your BH droids dont work guess what we will all see on the BH boards.. "Those dam jedi are all on kashykk and we can not hunt them due to our droids do not work on that planet.. Jedi should not get xp for fighting on kashykk."
Oh you dont believe me on that statment.. Just do a search for kashykk grinding... BHs and other jedi tell us to stay off the terms but yet with doing that we have just lost a good chunk of content. Plus the fact that I have seen many BHs and other professions just sit and watch groups grinding for the sole purpose of giving the jedi vis. So if you can stop that from happening and still let us keep the content then I will gladdly stay off the terms and make it so that you bhs can not hunt me.. Not that I really care if you do or not.
But stop with the statment of "Stay of the terms and you wont get hunted" its just a dumb come back and has been played out.
KeeferKman
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:16 pm
#7
Jedi, youmake awesomecontent these days, and for that all BH's give you a nice warm hug.
Atobe
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:33 pm
#8
Hulke wrote:
Im not saying that cloak necessarily needed a snare effect. However, it was being used inapproprietly. Between the exploiting and the cloak then run away it needed to be fixed. All I can say is that something had to be done.
What would be constructive is if you had a better idea to stop the exploiting and escaping.
Yes, cloak was being abused. That didn't mean it needed to be basically eliminated as a worthwhile skill (which the snare and additional breakage does). Something indeed had to be done, but this wasn't it.
And, btw: excuse me? "Stop the escaping ... ??" You see, that comment explains a lot. I can only deduce that too many cloakers got away from you, and now you'reorgasmic that this will become impossible.
Goodness me, and here I thought I played this game to entertain myself, when all this time I was really doing it to prepare to be some sick, twisted, little twitch monkey sociopath'sidea of fun (not meaning you, necessarily, but BH's in particluar
.Thanks for the correction.
Message Edited by Atobe on 09-22-2005 04:34 PM
battosai20
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:39 pm
#9
SiNNaTaS wrote:
battosai20 wrote:
I was going to flame you, but there is no point in beating a dead horse.
It's simple.
Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem, ever heard of Kashykk, yeah we can't hunt you there with our droids, just a thought.
Ok so you say go to kashykk. Great all the jedi will move to kashykk and will still get on the terms due to most of the content is NPC based. Well minus the Unsories. So now that all the jedi are on kashykk and your BH droids dont work guess what we will all see on the BH boards.. "Those dam jedi are all on kashykk and we can not hunt them due to our droids do not work on that planet.. Jedi should not get xp for fighting on kashykk."
Oh you dont believe me on that statment.. Just do a search for kashykk grinding... BHs and other jedi tell us to stay off the terms but yet with doing that we have just lost a good chunk of content. Plus the fact that I have seen many BHs and other professions just sit and watch groups grinding for the sole purpose of giving the jedi vis. So if you can stop that from happening and still let us keep the content then I will gladdly stay off the terms and make it so that you bhs can not hunt me.. Not that I really care if you do or not.
But stop with the statment of "Stay of the terms and you wont get hunted" its just a dumb come back and has been played out.
Just because some BH's whine about it on the boards doesn't mean that's the way the entire BH community feels, I know a lot of BH's that don't post here. I see a lot of Jedi get on the terms for stupid stuff deuling in a city, hunting near the MO on Dant., I have a lotof Jedi friends that have never been hunted, or have only had 2 or 3 BH encounters theywork hard to keep their viz low. You will get on the terms while hunting on Kash, but it's harder for us to find you there. I have a lot of Jedi friends and the things they go through to keep their viz low seems like a pain, but I hardly ever hear about them getting hunted all that much.
I dont' know how it is on Chilastra I will admit, but a lot of Jedi I know built citys in the extreme corners of planets like Rori or Dant, instead of around the starport like every other city, they built their city big enough to get terms, and then the capped it no shuttleport, so to hunt them it's a 6500m trek, which most of the time isn't worth it, when you can get the dummy dueling in Theed much easier. Then, Jedi have banded together to make a safehouse network and they always duck into these random houses on every planet, so maybe the Jedi on my server are a bit more resourceful, and yes they do get killed while engaged with pickets just like everywhere, and they somehow managed to get one of the best BH on our server permabanned, but we still have good battles, and I will give them credit for being hard marks to kill.
You knew the risks of becoming a Jedi, so I don't know why there is so much complaining everyone who has played this game knows SWG is far from perfect and you either accept it or you don't. I can't think of anyone who is 100% happy with their class, or the way things work, that's just the way it is.
Message Edited by battosai20 on 09-22-2005 04:42 PM
eternalfool
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:56 pm
#10
KeeferKman wrote:
Jedi, youmake awesomecontent these days, and for that all BH's give you a nice warm hug.
Thats nice
/pet
SiNNaTaS
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:59 pm
#11
battosai20 wrote:
SiNNaTaS wrote:
battosai20 wrote:
I was going to flame you, but there is no point in beating a dead horse.It's simple.Don't get Viz and you won't have a problem, ever heard of Kashykk, yeah we can't hunt you there with our droids, just a thought.
Ok so you say go to kashykk. Great all the jedi will move to kashykk and will still get on the terms due to most of the content is NPC based. Well minus the Unsories. So now that all the jedi are on kashykk and your BH droids dont work guess what we will all see on the BH boards.. "Those dam jedi are all on kashykk and we can not hunt them due to our droids do not work on that planet.. Jedi should not get xp for fighting on kashykk."
Oh you dont believe me on that statment.. Just do a search for kashykk grinding... BHs and other jedi tell us to stay off the terms but yet with doing that we have just lost a good chunk of content. Plus the fact that I have seen many BHs and other professions just sit and watch groups grinding for the sole purpose of giving the jedi vis. So if you can stop that from happening and still let us keep the content then I will gladdly stay off the terms and make it so that you bhs can not hunt me.. Not that I really care if you do or not.
But stop with the statment of "Stay of the terms and you wont get hunted" its just a dumb come back and has been played out.
Just because some BH's whine about it on the boards doesn't mean that's the way the entire BH community feels, I know a lot of BH's that don't post here. I see a lot of Jedi get on the terms for stupid stuff deuling in a city, hunting near the MO on Dant., I have a lot of Jedi friends that have never been hunted, or have only had 2 or 3 BH encounters they work hard to keep their viz low. You will get on the terms while hunting on Kash, but it's harder for us to find you there. I have a lot of Jedi friends and the things they go through to keep their viz low seems like a pain, but I hardly ever hear about them getting hunted all that much.I dont' know how it is on Chilastra I will admit, but a lot of Jedi I know built citys in the extreme corners of planets like Rori or Dant, instead of around the starport like every other city, they built their city big enough to get terms, and then the capped it no shuttleport, so to hunt them it's a 6500m trek, which most of the time isn't worth it, when you can get the dummy dueling in Theed much easier. Then, Jedi have banded together to make a safehouse network and they always duck into these random houses on every planet, so maybe the Jedi on my server are a bit more resourceful, and yes they do get killed while engaged with pickets just like everywhere, and they somehow managed to get one of the best BH on our server permabanned, but we still have good battles, and I will give them credit for being hard marks to kill.You knew the risks of becoming a Jedi, so I don't know why there is so much complaining everyone who has played this game knows SWG is far from perfect and you either accept it or you don't. I can't think of anyone who is 100% happy with their class, or the way things work, that's just the way it is.Message Edited by battosai20 on 09-22-2005 04:42 PM
I guess you missed my point.. I was more or less stating that the comment of kashykk and no vis was BS due to the fact of the grinding will still get you vis.
On chilly yes we have our ways of not getting vis but to me I dont really care if I get hunted in all honesty and I am also not complaing about the vis I get. BHs come after me and either I win or they do thats how it is. I new that when I unlocked my jedi and have never stated other wise. I just know that the more jedi that go back to kashakyy a good majority or the BH community will B!tch. I will agree with you not all of them will complain but there are a lot. Dont think that I can not see all the b1tching and complaining going on on the jedi and bh or what ever profession you want to look at.
DanlufCuCar
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:02 pm
#12
Wosa wrote:
It seems as if anyone that says anything about a profession gets it ruined, In all the posts I read, Not one or at least two of them said the problem with cloak was that people got away from BH, Infact it was not even that big of an Issure on the BH boards. Nearly all the complaints were about the NPC agro and the Cloaked DWB exploiting or the cloaked loot camping.
So whats with the snare? Its like Avoid Incap, Who asked for snare on that? No one.. The HUGE force cost should have been eough, But I am getting off topic and that is old news.
It just seems to me that the people that ask for a fix end up ruining the whole skill, Ok, a few people are exploiting, I hate them as much as the next guy, But now we have lost an entire skill because of the people calling FIX.
I wish they would fix the problems without adding negative effects.
All the ways that BH are cheating and doing wrong, and on our boards we only hear about jedi exploiting, I find something wrong with that.
Its just my two cents,
I got an idea....... Quit mabye? If you dont like the freaking game dont play it, simple as that.
Gelotri
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:04 pm
#13
Hulke wrote:
Im not saying that cloak necessarily needed a snare effect. However, it was being used inapproprietly. Between the exploiting and the cloak then run away it needed to be fixed. All I can say is that something had to be done.
What would be constructive is if you had a better idea to stop the exploiting and escaping.
So what you are saying is Jedi shouldnt run away when they are being beaten? Question to you....Have you ever been hunting or fighting and near death, then Burst Run away to keep from dying? Of course you have. Wonder if they should nerf Burst Run to keep that exploit from continuing? You see....the Cloak skill was a defensive skill for Force Powers folks. Someone put it a special way sometime ago.....how did it go? If you, as a BH, want an "I Win" button go kill nunas.
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