Jedi Archive

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istali wrote:

Change most of you're facts and when they are correct ill comment

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edmund28 wrote:

First of all, I want to start off by saying I'm a Jedi Padwan, Master Sabers, Master Defender, Enh 0 0 0 2 and healer 3 0 0 0

Now it seems to me that there are many unfair things about the Jedi Prof.

Point 1 - Jedi's compared to other prof's are under-powered. Not true. Not all Jedi are underpowered. If you want to say that A jedi's weapon is much harder to make good, then that is true. But to generalize all Jedi as being underpowered is overstating the problem and oversimplifying. My Jedi is more powerful than any non-Jedi toon on my server. I have run into a couple that would be real close, with almost perfect equipment, and very experienced PvPers, but still non better. Other Jedis have beaten me but never a non-Jedi toon. The real problem is that it is much easier to get a non-Jedi weapon maxed to damage cap, than it is for a Jedi. Whether that is an actual problem is based on someone's opinion.

Point 2 - Jedi's Post-CU are at a huge disadvange to Pre-CU jedi's.

(a) Pre-CU jedi's have Light sabers with no action cost. They have 100 SAC, after the conversion fix. If you know someone that has one that wont report it themselves then report it for them.

(b) Pre-CU jedi's at least some of them have an exta 3 skill points. From what? All of the skills are the same. If at one time they exploited the system because of the FS issue, then just report them. This is not common.

(c) Pre-Cu Jedi's perals or crsytals for the most part racived high states during the converation. They did not receive high stats during the conversion, The conversion was a mathematical forumla and treated all pearls crystals the same and mathematically converted the stats. The difference is because the pre-cu jedi had premiums available to them and thus most had better tunes than you can currently get.

Point 3 - Post-CU jedi for the most part have crapy Lightsabers. Myself and many I know have not been able to obtain a good light saber and I have turned, tuned and tuned peral after peral crystal after crsytal and the best i've gotton is +73 max damage. My friend hasn't been able to get nothing close to that. And hear's another problem I have friends who just got jedi and with no skill point vested within the prof they're getting +120 tunes on there stuff. Yet me a fully compleated jedi gets crap. This is wrong.The sytem is just a random modified loot table. The stats of the crystal are decided at the time of looting, and are just revealed at tuning. Think of it just as other loots, the higher level the NPC, the better the chance of getting good loot, however you can get good loot from lower level NPCs, just not as often. Same things with crystals, you get the higher quality from higher level NPCs, and such the higher level qualities have the better possibility of tuning well, but you can still get a good tune from lower levels. The odds of course are against you.

Point 4 Jedi's complian a lot on the forums but are un-willing for the most part to do anything to stand up for what they say. You guys don't seem lto like things any better then teh rest of us however your not willing to do anything to get SoE to take notice and offer us anything in the way of help. There have been times where jedi's have wanted to do a quit thing but the jedi's weren't willing to move forward with it. ONe or two quit's no big deal but if we all quit togeter soe would take notice becuase that's money out of there pockets.As such is life. Most people lack the courage to stand up under the fire.

Botton line SoE will con to nerff, nerff, nerff. As long as we the Jedi Commy allow them to get away with it. If you want change let's stand up and concider on doing something about it and not just complaining about it.

As an active Jedi In SWG I'm more then willing to help with what ever the Jedi Commy comes up with but it's going to take all of us. And for those Pre-Cu jedi's who seem to not have to worry about crap lightsabers or what not that may be fine but think about how we feel too. I think we need to do somthing to show SoE if they're going to con to not offer us help, con to degrade our skills then soe is not going to have any jedi's left and they're going to lose a lot of money.

Anways you thoughts and comments please.

Edmund Macleod

Jedi Padwan

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Sidalo Yalew - Sith Apprentice
Renamed - Master Merchant

All Accounts Cancelled by NGE

Dude, nerfs are about making money, period.

SOE is not interested in making the game better, they are intersted in making money.

The nerfs have nothing to do with game balance and everything to do with new players / extending the end game.

This is a subscription business model and as such, extending the end game means more money.

By nerfing Jedi, it doesseveral things.

1) Makes new players happy cause they can play a BH and wipe the floor with the great majority of PostCU jedi.

2) By having these new players kill the jedi, thus xp loss, it takes longer for the new jedi to level up.

3) Because the leveling of jedi is taking longer, the number of jedi screaming for FRS is managed at a level that keeps them in the minority and buys SOE time to make a better half a$$ attempt at the FRS.

/peaceout

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edmund28 wrote:

First of all, I want to start off by saying I'm a Jedi Padwan, Master Sabers, Master Defender, Enh 0 0 0 2 and healer 3 0 0 0

Now it seems to me that there are many unfair things about the Jedi Prof.

Point 1 - Jedi's compared to other prof's are under-powered.

Point 2 - Jedi's Post-CU are at a huge disadvange to Pre-CU jedi's.

(a) Pre-CU jedi's have Light sabers with no action cost.

(b) Pre-CU jedi's at least some of them have an exta 3 skill points.

(c) Pre-Cu Jedi's perals or crsytals for the most part racived high states during the converation.

Point 3 - Post-CU jedi for the most part have crapy Lightsabers. Myself and many I know have not been able to obtain a good light saber and I have turned, tuned and tuned peral after peral crystal after crsytal and the best i've gotton is +73 max damage. My friend hasn't been able to get nothing close to that. And hear's another problem I have friends who just got jedi and with no skill point vested within the prof they're getting +120 tunes on there stuff. Yet me a fully compleated jedi gets crap. This is wrong.

Point 4 Jedi's complian a lot on the forums but are un-willing for the most part to do anything to stand up for what they say. You guys don't seem lto like things any better then teh rest of us however your not willing to do anything to get SoE to take notice and offer us anything in the way of help. There have been times where jedi's have wanted to do a quit thing but the jedi's weren't willing to move forward with it. ONe or two quit's no big deal but if we all quit togeter soe would take notice becuase that's money out of there pockets.

Botton line SoE will con to nerff, nerff, nerff. As long as we the Jedi Commy allow them to get away with it. If you want change let's stand up and concider on doing something about it and not just complaining about it.

As an active Jedi In SWG I'm more then willing to help with what ever the Jedi Commy comes up with but it's going to take all of us. And for those Pre-Cu jedi's who seem to not have to worry about crap lightsabers or what not that may be fine but think about how we feel too. I think we need to do somthing to show SoE if they're going to con to not offer us help, con to degrade our skills then soe is not going to have any jedi's left and they're going to lose a lot of money.

Anways you thoughts and comments please.

Edmund Macleod

Jedi Padwan

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edmund28 wrote:

First of all, I want to start off by saying I'm a Jedi Padwan, Master Sabers, Master Defender, Enh 0 0 0 2 and healer 3 0 0 0

Now it seems to me that there are many unfair things about the Jedi Prof.

Point 1 - Jedi's compared to other prof's are under-powered.

underpowered...not really, underskilled an under equiped is more accurate. i have yet to loose to a non jedi since the CU. armor break slice needs an adjustment sure, but saber speed is also broke. FRS is also a huge missing link here. SOE said we are 1.5x stronger at KNIGHT, its impossible to get knight atm and this needs to be fixed.

Point 2 - Jedi's Post-CU are at a huge disadvange to Pre-CU jedi's.

(a) Pre-CU jedi's have Light sabers with no action cost.

if they where in a bank when fixed, and using them is an exploit...

(b) Pre-CU jedi's at least some of them have an exta 3 skill points.

sure im not a forum troll but i have no idea where you got this from, again exploit...

people had triple sliced t-21 rifles, didn't mean rifleman was overpowered, it means morons exploited.

(c) Pre-Cu Jedi's perals or crsytals for the most part racived high states during the converation.

Pre-CU SABERS converted to slightly faster speed than an average post CU can be crafted to. pearls converted the same as the ones you tune now.

Point 3 - Post-CU jedi for the most part have crapy Lightsabers. Myself and many I know have not been able to obtain a good light saber and I have turned, tuned and tuned peral after peral crystal after crsytal and the best i've gotton is +73 max damage. My friend hasn't been able to get nothing close to that. And hear's another problem I have friends who just got jedi and with no skill point vested within the prof they're getting +120 tunes on there stuff. Yet me a fully compleated jedi gets crap. This is wrong.

the difference is they were premium and simply had a better tune rate. you can actually get a saber just as good if not better than most pre cu knights. killing an ancient krayt takes me 5 minutes or less solo. pre CU it took more than that with 3 jedi and a tank. tune a bunch of "good" and youl get a decent saber.

how many pearls have you tuned? probly half as many premiums that i had to to get a good saber pre CU. you can get 20+ "good" pearls solo in 7 or 8 hours. stop asking for more handouts

Point 4 Jedi's complian a lot on the forums but are un-willing for the most part to do anything to stand up for what they say. You guys don't seem lto like things any better then teh rest of us however your not willing to do anything to get SoE to take notice and offer us anything in the way of help. There have been times where jedi's have wanted to do a quit thing but the jedi's weren't willing to move forward with it. ONe or two quit's no big deal but if we all quit togeter soe would take notice becuase that's money out of there pockets.

SOE doesnt care and SOE wont ever read this post. thousands of people protested the CU, and still don't like it. they didnt care, in fact they pushed the date forward.

Botton line SoE will con to nerff, nerff, nerff. As long as we the Jedi Commy allow them to get away with it. If you want change let's stand up and concider on doing something about it and not just complaining about it.

refer to above note

As an active Jedi In SWG I'm more then willing to help with what ever the Jedi Commy comes up with but it's going to take all of us. And for those Pre-Cu jedi's who seem to not have to worry about crap lightsabers or what not that may be fine but think about how we feel too. I think we need to do somthing to show SoE if they're going to con to not offer us help, con to degrade our skills then soe is not going to have any jedi's left and they're going to lose a lot of money.

they are focusing on the expansion atm. 1. they are trying to find a way where pearls are not "farmed by players". so they are working on it drop it already. 2. most of these "nerfs" are balances for the FRS (atleast thats what it seems like) as ive said before we need FRS now to balance things around FRS not balance then have FRS come and ruin the balance and have to start all over again.

Anways you thoughts and comments please.

Edmund Macleod

Jedi Padwan

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Message Edited by Tarja- on 09-19-2005 03:59 PM

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edmund28 wrote:

First of all, I want to start off by saying I'm a Jedi Padwan, Master Sabers, Master Defender, Enh 0 0 0 2 and healer 3 0 0 0

Now it seems to me that there are many unfair things about the Jedi Prof.

Point 1 - Jedi's compared to other prof's are under-powered.

Point 2 - Jedi's Post-CU are at a huge disadvange to Pre-CU jedi's.

(a) Pre-CU jedi's have Light sabers with no action cost.

(b) Pre-CU jedi's at least some of them have an exta 3 skill points.

(c) Pre-Cu Jedi's perals or crsytals for the most part racived high states during the converation.

Point 3 - Post-CU jedi for the most part have crapy Lightsabers. Myself and many I know have not been able to obtain a good light saber and I have turned, tuned and tuned peral after peral crystal after crsytal and the best i've gotton is +73 max damage. My friend hasn't been able to get nothing close to that. And hear's another problem I have friends who just got jedi and with no skill point vested within the prof they're getting +120 tunes on there stuff. Yet me a fully compleated jedi gets crap. This is wrong.

Point 4 Jedi's complian a lot on the forums but are un-willing for the most part to do anything to stand up for what they say. You guys don't seem lto like things any better then teh rest of us however your not willing to do anything to get SoE to take notice and offer us anything in the way of help. There have been times where jedi's have wanted to do a quit thing but the jedi's weren't willing to move forward with it. ONe or two quit's no big deal but if we all quit togeter soe would take notice becuase that's money out of there pockets.

Botton line SoE will con to nerff, nerff, nerff. As long as we the Jedi Commy allow them to get away with it. If you want change let's stand up and concider on doing something about it and not just complaining about it.

As an active Jedi In SWG I'm more then willing to help with what ever the Jedi Commy comes up with but it's going to take all of us. And for those Pre-Cu jedi's who seem to not have to worry about crap lightsabers or what not that may be fine but think about how we feel too. I think we need to do somthing to show SoE if they're going to con to not offer us help, con to degrade our skills then soe is not going to have any jedi's left and they're going to lose a lot of money.

Anways you thoughts and comments please.

Edmund Macleod

Jedi Padwan

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edmund28 wrote:

First of all, I want to start off by saying I'm a Jedi Padwan, Master Sabers, Master Defender, Enh 0 0 0 2 and healer 3 0 0 0

Now it seems to me that there are many unfair things about the Jedi Prof.

Point 1 - Jedi's compared to other prof's are under-powered.

Point 2 - Jedi's Post-CU are at a huge disadvange to Pre-CU jedi's.

Yes mainly becayse of lazyness

(a) Pre-CU jedi's have Light sabers with no action cost.

Nope, all the pre cu jedi i have asked 20+ all have 100 sac sabers, this was fixed a long time ago.

(b) Pre-CU jedi's at least some of them have an exta 3 skill points.

A few, i dont im a pre cu, there is one person on my server that has 1 sp more thats the only one.

(c) Pre-Cu Jedi's perals or crsytals for the most part racived high states during the converation.

Not really, i have several friends who had near perfect pre cu and who's sabers are way lower than others who had almost the exact stats.

Point 3 - Post-CU jedi for the most part have crapy Lightsabers. Myself and many I know have not been able to obtain a good light saber and I have turned, tuned and tuned peral after peral crystal after crsytal and the best i've gotton is +73 max damage. My friend hasn't been able to get nothing close to that. And hear's another problem I have friends who just got jedi and with no skill point vested within the prof they're getting +120 tunes on there stuff. Yet me a fully compleated jedi gets crap. This is wrong.

You can only get 120 thats max, i have tuned 240 pearls since the CU and my post cu saber is 676 max, 20 FC 98 sac, its just a matter of getting enough pearls and tuning enough pearls. I do agree that a full temp should get better tunes as he or she progresses.

Point 4 Jedi's complian a lot on the forums but are un-willing for the most part to do anything to stand up for what they say. You guys don't seem lto like things any better then teh rest of us however your not willing to do anything to get SoE to take notice and offer us anything in the way of help. There have been times where jedi's have wanted to do a quit thing but the jedi's weren't willing to move forward with it. ONe or two quit's no big deal but if we all quit togeter soe would take notice becuase that's money out of there pockets.

You were complaining about pre cu jedi having advatages one paragraph ago

Botton line SoE will con to nerff, nerff, nerff. As long as we the Jedi Commy allow them to get away with it. If you want change let's stand up and concider on doing something about it and not just complaining about it.

As an active Jedi In SWG I'm more then willing to help with what ever the Jedi Commy comes up with but it's going to take all of us. And for those Pre-Cu jedi's who seem to not have to worry about crap lightsabers or what not that may be fine but think about how we feel too. I think we need to do somthing to show SoE if they're going to con to not offer us help, con to degrade our skills then soe is not going to have any jedi's left and they're going to lose a lot of money.

Anways you thoughts and comments please.

Edmund Macleod

Jedi Padwan

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