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Thread: either fix our damn speed mods or nerf cm heals....

Valius_Altmer
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:55 am
#1

seriously DEVS, i single CM should not be able to outheal a jedi, especially when i have a 709 max saber. i fought a cm bh tonight for an hour. Most jedi would run but i stayed to fight him. Everytime i fought him i would find myself burning thorugh my force trying to incap him while he just contunally healed all teh way back up. I had 3 friends watching the whole time. I am NOT a bad pvper and have a very impeccable record against BHs (cms included), but when a bh comes and kills me simply cause i burn up my force trying to incap then watch as his DoTs incap me cause i can't heal worth a sh!t. yeah i can use ruby and stims too but i gotta use my stomach for action/mind regen to fight these CMs. When i can hit a bh for 1k+ dmg or very close to they should not be abel to just stand there and keep healing it off over and over, this is complete crap. You say we are 1.5 stronger? ha!


don't flame me telling me i suck at pvp, i got plenty of people who would sayotherwise, and those friends who watched this fight tonight will tell you what complete crap this system is
Metalsaber
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:00 am
#2

to me its more of a matter of did the devs just forget about CMs when they were doing the CU?

I dont mind our heals, and the spd issue is across the board. So i dont want to fix that problem sorry guys. Imagine now you can almost incap a person in 4 well timed attacks. Now picture that if the spds were actually working. That means you would be constantly healing and never able to attack. I'm sorry i dont want that. The spds are fine. However if you are talking about healing timers, then i would tend to agree.



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lovisa
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:00 am
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it is sad it is like it is but dont call nerf on CM , you shuld rather call for fix on our speed wich is broken and if they fix it then we have no biggy with MBH/MBH



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Valius_Altmer
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:05 am
#4

also kind of gets me how a 0020 medic has the ability to out heal a 4000 healer jedi
-zoe-
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:08 am
#5


Well actually when they nerfed Speed buffs they forgot to nerf the counter Thyroid rupture debuff its still @ -40.00 speed top that with broken jedi saber speed mods well of course CM's are going to outheal a jedi whos attacking so slow the saber de-ignites between attacks.


Frustrating this I have not seen any SOE comment on this and its been an issue for so long.





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Emperor_Pimpati
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:09 am
#6






Valius_Altmer wrote:
also kind of gets me how a 0020 medic has the ability to out heal a 4000 healer jedi






4000 healer = 28 points
0020 medic = 20 points


save yourself 8 skill points and pick up medic and novice powers





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Valius_Altmer
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:11 am
#7






Emperor_Pimpati wrote:





Valius_Altmer wrote:
also kind of gets me how a 0020 medic has the ability to out heal a 4000 healer jedi






4000 healer = 28 points
0020 medic = 20 points


save yourself 8 skill points and pick up medic and novice powers








yeah and sacrifice 725 force? no thanks
WookieOgre
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:26 am
#8






Emperor_Pimpati wrote:





Valius_Altmer wrote:
also kind of gets me how a 0020 medic has the ability to out heal a 4000 healer jedi






4000 healer = 28 points
0020 medic = 20 points


save yourself 8 skill points and pick up medic and novice powers








Actually Medic xx2x only heals about 1k every 4-5 secs and that's with a bio shirt with +38 HE food. 4xxx Healer can do 1500 every 6 seconds but they also get infusion.


Before the devs slightly nerfed the healing people were actually healing close to 2k with medic xx2x but atm it's not possible (I believe).


I agree our healing is horrible but something tells me this was done on purpose with the influx of Jedi. It's the same reason why they refuse to fix the pearls, they are scared that the game would be controlled by one profession. Right now Jedi can be killed, until the FRS comes out I'd expect nothing to change.
hikariken
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:35 am
#9


well I am not the kind asking for nerf. CM got their skills and we do have ours but well I met 3 MBH/MCM so far and I did loos 3 times.


and for the same reason, the MCM can heal himself without limit if he takes drug, while jedi always have a limit his force pool and go knows force heal is sucking into this pool. put aside the fact that pearl drop is bugged and you have a jedi with a ls at250 basedps while mls that can heal himself at 1500hp for a hig force cost while the BH/MCM got a rifll eor a pistol at 350 to 500 base dps and can heal from 1500 to 2000hp without anylimits.


now tell me where is the ration of 1.5:1 for jedi that soe talked about when doing CU?



SOE nerfed our heal because BH asked it but when you looks upon it BH still are asking for jedi nerf when they can win more than 80% of their bounty. this i smore than unfair, I know it is the jedi fault to be on terminals but if we don't have a chance to stand against a MCM it is more than unfair. when I fight them I feel like a CL 54 fighting a full template jedi that is laughing on me. I hit him hit him again while he is looking healing and hiting back gently and laugh about me. this is not fun at all.



I donot think that speed mods are the problem I think that the heal force cost is the problem and the dps of the ls is too. if only a ls could have the same dps than a riffle or a pistol, and if we could heal ourselfs as much as a MCM can then this would be fair.



problem is that BH is only limited by his mind and wih one drug he can heal himself without mind loss so maybe soe should lower the stat of this drug, or make the mind consumption of MCM heals a bit hight so they have a limit to their heal.




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BudBandit
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:36 am
#10


Your sig says it all...."Why do all dumb BH's come for me" You got beat and your pissed because your uberness lost.


Get over it you even say in you posts youve beaten them before so...whats your prob here??? OO thats right you lost

lotus-
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:38 am
#11

Totally agree i have the same problem and fought upto 45 minutes against them
Otura
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:59 am
#12


STOP ASKING FOR NERFS!!!!!!!!!


You are pathetic sometimes. Plz check the Bh forum, see how much they cry. Nothing compared to us!. If u cant win a fight Vs a good MBH MCM i am sorry! die and shut up! do u wanna live forever?


U forget to say how many MBH MCM u killed. I am jedi and most majority of the times i win , and many there are MBH MCM, and they die. But there are some that knows his work very good. Here is not a problem of capacity, its a problem of knowvery good,the template u have.


Do u want war? ok! continue asking for nerfs and in a short time u will see ur marvellous glowstick with pearls pre CU, NERFED!!!!! Why? because when a Bh couldnt beat any jedi they will do the same. Ask for nerfs.


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DrNeek
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:29 am
#13

Combat Medics are not combat doctors. If I was fighting a MBH/MDoc, i would expect massive heals because that person spent half their skillpoints in healing.


A MEDIC should not be able to heal that much, that fast, concidering only 4 tree in combat medic is healing, the rest is offence. Dabblers pick CM-4000 over DOC-4000 because the heals are better, that's ridiculous.


The situation is bad because CM heals are overpowered, but our speed is broken. That equals to a very frustrating situation where people who don't have that 9 forcecost 550 dps saber in hand.


We're not asking for a nerf, we're asking for a fair chance. If a BH comes for me fully buffed and full of food with massive mind regeneration, I have no chance at all. I did invest the skillpoints in SAP to give me better odds and it helps, but even with that, it's extremely difficult to cause enough damage to drain a CM's mind. And usually, by the time I have half his mind gone, my force bar is empty and I have to whip that rifle out while i regen force. And if, for 3 seconds we lose aggro, the CM will just sit down for 3-4 seconds, get 100% mind back and come back after me. If i sit down for 3-4 seconds, i'll gain 25 points in force, allowing me to.... well, to do nothing.





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