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Thread: Mastering Your Lightsaber, an Educational Guide
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spacemonkeyx
Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:21 pm
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Please watch the saftey video before continuing
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=your_lightsaber_100
ok now that we have gotten the safety video out of the way lets begin on which skills are important.
ACC and SPD are very essential but are not the only important elements among mastering lightsabers. Even after PUB 19's reduced SAC and FC one still wants around 100 SAC saber and lowest FC u can attain. A goal of 10-14 FC saber is preferred (myself i prefer to go the 10 FC saber route) but to be able to get one you must master lightsabers first. To do this i recommend attaining at least a single 3rd tier skill in lightsabers first for ACC, SPD is important but not as attainable by most ppl at first. Realize unless u have some really good pearls /crystals you most likely will be using an alternate weapon (but for this guide we are going to say we have moderate crystals) Realize that your first saber will be totally horrible i suggest making a trainer for xp purposes only or mayby a 1st gen at most.
First get a 3rd tier skill in any of the 3 lightsaber disciplines. Upon attaining this your next goal is to get techniques 4 and get the best resources u can find for the crafting of your lighsaber. each server varies on its best resources i recommend finding a helpful knight in your guild or elsewhere to guide you on what resources to gather. Second u need a +15.00 lightsabeer crafting tool or access to one and at least a +42.00 weapons crafting station...also being inside a city thats research is benificial (but one must be a citizen to aquire benefits of the city) get a inspiration buff and finally bespine port (use this 1 experimentation point per sip..should take 30 minutes to make saber..i received 6 amazing successes like this). Now lets say you chose 1h lightsaber tree.
upon getting ready to craft this saber your skills should be 3xx4 giving you 7 experimentaion points from the techniques tree. All 7 points will be used in the effeciency area for reduced SAC and FC. Also be aware SAC will be the same no matter what gen you use but FC will vary because of Crystal FC tuning. with bespine port i got 6 amazing successes with my 4th gen saber so you can see why its important.
here are some examples of tunes
BAD tunes
-50/50 dmg -9FC
-80/80 dmg -2FC
DECENT tunes
-103/103 dmg -5FC
-90/90 dmg -7FC
GOOD tunes
-105/105 dmg -8FC
-100/100 dmg -9FC
PERFECT tunes
-110/110 dmg -9FC (crystal)
-120/120 dmg -9FC (pearl)
Now of course once you have crafted your saber at 3xx4 this will not be your last saber. Continue to get 1h 4 and then gain the skill boxes for the remaining 2 trees untill you are ready for mastery. Upon reaching mastery follow the steps for crafting again but this time for your 4th gen saber in which you will now have 10 experimentaion points. A good CU saber has APPX 265 base dps. Bt remember at MLS spd experimentaion is useless...go EFFECIENCY AND DMG....for a 10 FC saber u will need 4 -9FC crystals/perals and have experimented to 48 base FC....4th gens start at 52 base FC.
**just a reminder ...spd experimentaion is useless because of 2xxx enh...the 3 skill u gain from this makes MLS as powerful as it is..the ability to run fast at full dmg potential....force speed which gives a spd modifier better than what u would get experimenting without drastically compromising much neded efficiency as well as the ability to root your oponent...some may argue but 2xxxenh is a must for MLS to be truly effective in combat...stamina 1st(action regen+low SAC+low FC) comes 1st...2nd comes spd(this is allowed due to stamina..good stamina allows mass spd atr a consistant rate.....3rd is dmg
Now lets get into usefull skills and foods for MLS
with the new mind cost on heals mind and action regen are most important also in any battle 99% of the time health regen is so minimal it does not effect the outcome of a battle
ITEMS TO USE (HR=Health Regen)
-crispix gives around +80 melee acc (great for MLS or just a LS dabbler)
-booster blue -20%HR but +20% health and +20% mind/action regen
-Accaragm +75HR +200 action /mind regen (49 fill and about 18 uses per botle at least and 8 minute dur....i make 9.54 min dur 49 fil +77HR +200 action /mind regen 21 uses per bottle)
-(currently searching for a food thats good for mind/action regen..im new to chef will update asap)
***also leaving room for drink will allow those who wish to use ruby bliel and stims to do so to assits with heals
By simply using 3 items u can dramatically increase your regen...with a 100 SAC saber and these foods i regen so fast i hardly can take my action down even with FS2 (force Speed 2)
Now on to must have skills...thse are a must being the way MLS is at the current standpoint.
2xxx enhancer....this has 3 useful skills and makes spd experimentation not even needed.
supression gives root to keep ranged still long enough to get to them to KD and power attack....unless your fighting melee power attack will only be used when u KD your oponent unless they are dumb and stand there for you. This also gives you force speed which gives a 15.00 mod to your speed...very noticable....and last force run to get to your rooted oponet quickly. those of you who want 3xxx enh will get a 25.00 spd mod that lasts 12 minutes instead of 6 mins for 15.00 (im personally for 3xxxenh)
REMEMBER
your most powerful attack is ADV Armor Break...keep your Opponent AB all the time..it makes your every attack that much more.
stay away from dervish and spin attack they are area attacks and are not goof for dmg unless you are in massive pvp...1 on 1 they are just for showing off and suck the force down.
MLS is relativly easy but we are melee and therefore are hindered against ranged...if u get rooted root him and saber throw...MLS saberthrow still KD'sand does a decent amount of DMG...keep them withing 32m range and u can hit them...
fighting a MD/MCM...these guys are tough now if they know what they can do...most heal around half health..the trick is getting to half health and gewtting that KD off before they heal..then power attack then cycle body/head/leg and hopefully u get a incap....sometimes it takes a few tries.
SABER SPECIALS FORCE/SAC COST
(comming soon)
How to grind MLS
first off realise this guide is based off my opinion...many may again disagree but i feel this is the simplest way to do this.
I see so many padawans below lvl 60 and this is bad...dont go on a skill dropping spree upon gaining padawan....drop skills as u gain skills only...this keeps you at the highest possible CL at all times..remember CL effects dmg taken...damage dealt...xp gained...and overall health.
First off start with healer...i suggest at least 3xxx healer before u start on another skill set.
2nd since i have said above at least 2xxx enhancer is a must for MLS get this next..it provides force speed for a quick getaway if nessacary.
once u have the skills in healer and enhancer focus on the above guide for sabers....again pick 1 tree in sabers to get at least a 3rd tier skill before going into techniques.....1st and 2nd gen sabers are good to grind with...keep these handy for grinding and keep your best saber (3rd or 4th gen w/ ADK) in inv on standby in case of BH
ruby bleil and stims will assist in healing right now since jedi healing is on such a hard decay timer...good luck 
***on a side note for LS dabblersit is still nesacary to get SAC down through effeciency experimenting...but unless u have access to a 12 point suit a few points..say 3 into spd experimentation will help alot..especially for those who will not have the force celerity tree in their template
/sigh i tend to ramble..o hope this is usefull
thanks all SPACEMONKEY
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spacemonkeyx
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:35 pm
#3
NolictheNerf-Herder wrote:
Great Post, thanks for the info spacemonkey
thanks i put alot of time into this...i hope it helps alot of ppl
Lord-R
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:43 pm
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spacemonkeyx wrote:
Now of course once you have crafted your saber at 3xx4 this will not be your last saber. Continue to get 1h 4 and then gain the skill boxes for the remaining 2 trees untill you are ready for mastery. Upon reaching mastery follow the steps for crafting again but this time for your 4th gen saber in which you will now have 10 experimentaion points. A good CU saber has APPX 265 base dps. Bt remember at MLS spd experimentaion is useless...go EFFECIENCY AND DMG....for a 10 FC saber u will need 4 -9FC crystals/perals and have experimented to 48 base FC....4th gens start at 52 base FC.
with no hardcaps how can that be true?
Very nice post im sure you put a lot of thought into this im just hoping you can go more inot detail why is this.
Lord-R
Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:04 am
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spacemonkeyx wrote:
with deminishing returns as they are the amount of points needed to make a marketed difference in saber speed will cause more harm because your saber SAC and FC will be much much higher therefore hindering someone at MLS due to needing more action regen than in possible to gain as wellas being combat ineffective VS force usage of said saber....also with merely 2xxxenh one gains 3 much needed and viable skills making MLS much more effective and negating the need for spd experimentation. even with pub 19 a 100 SAC saber is still needed at MLS to be truly effective. As i said above action regen is the most impoortant 2nd comes mind....if u keep a 120 sac saber and go speed one will demolish their action bar so badly...with this setup i can hit channel force every 3 attacks if neded to up my forcve bar and still regen with no worries....the key is stamina first..dmg second sped last not the other way around. Valid question i will make sure i add a shorter version in an edit above
Thank you sir. I did know about that there is a point that you get where it can be considered a Cap but wasn't sure if that was at MLS. luckly i have already crafted possible the best saber I could make (100 sac 1.4mod speed 13fc bestI could do, never run out of action while im using food)
***EDIT*** N/M ill figure it out on my own =P
Message Edited by Lord-R on 07-04-2005 01:17 AM
spacemonkeyx
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:00 pm
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with deminishing returns as they are the amount of points needed to make a marketed difference in saber speed will cause more harm because your saber SAC and FC will be much much higher therefore hindering someone at MLS due to needing more action regen than in possible to gain as wellas being combat ineffective VS force usage of said saber....also with merely 2xxxenh one gains 3 much needed and viable skills making MLS much more effective and negating the need for spd experimentation. even with pub 19 a 100 SAC saber is still needed at MLS to be truly effective. As i said above action regen is the most impoortant 2nd comes mind....if u keep a 120 sac saber and go speed one will demolish their action bar so badly...with this setup i can hit channel force every 3 attacks if neded to up my forcve bar and still regen with no worries....the key is stamina first..dmg second sped last not the other way around. Valid question i will make sure i add a shorter version in an edit above
Lord-R wrote:
spacemonkeyx wrote:
Now of course once you have crafted your saber at 3xx4 this will not be your last saber. Continue to get 1h 4 and then gain the skill boxes for the remaining 2 trees untill you are ready for mastery. Upon reaching mastery follow the steps for crafting again but this time for your 4th gen saber in which you will now have 10 experimentaion points. A good CU saber has APPX 265 base dps. Bt remember at MLS spd experimentaion is useless...go EFFECIENCY AND DMG....for a 10 FC saber u will need 4 -9FC crystals/perals and have experimented to 48 base FC....4th gens start at 52 base FC.
with no hardcaps how can that be true?
Very nice post im sure you put a lot of thought into this im just hoping you can go more inot detail why is this.
Airflare21
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:08 pm
#7
Lord-R wrote:
spacemonkeyx wrote:
Now of course once you have crafted your saber at 3xx4 this will not be your last saber. Continue to get 1h 4 and then gain the skill boxes for the remaining 2 trees untill you are ready for mastery. Upon reaching mastery follow the steps for crafting again but this time for your 4th gen saber in which you will now have 10 experimentaion points. A good CU saber has APPX 265 base dps. Bt remember at MLS spd experimentaion is useless...go EFFECIENCY AND DMG....for a 10 FC saber u will need 4 -9FC crystals/perals and have experimented to 48 base FC....4th gens start at 52 base FC.
with no hardcaps how can that be true?
Very nice post im sure you put a lot of thought into this im just hoping you can go more inot detail why is this.
Inthedinimishing returncurve, there's stilla point that can be called "a cap".
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spacemonkeyx
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:22 pm
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Airflare21 wrote:
Lord-R wrote:
spacemonkeyx wrote:
Now of course once you have crafted your saber at 3xx4 this will not be your last saber. Continue to get 1h 4 and then gain the skill boxes for the remaining 2 trees untill you are ready for mastery. Upon reaching mastery follow the steps for crafting again but this time for your 4th gen saber in which you will now have 10 experimentaion points. A good CU saber has APPX 265 base dps. Bt remember at MLS spd experimentaion is useless...go EFFECIENCY AND DMG....for a 10 FC saber u will need 4 -9FC crystals/perals and have experimented to 48 base FC....4th gens start at 52 base FC.
with no hardcaps how can that be true?
Very nice post im sure you put a lot of thought into this im just hoping you can go more inot detail why is this.
Inthedinimishing returncurve, there's stilla point that can be called "a cap".
QFE also but it was still a vlid point and needed more clarification
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spacemonkeyx
Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:43 pm
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SWGHottie wrote:
Interesting writeup. Good work.
I added you to my Templates and professions Guides sticky thread btw. Do you think you could expand it a little to include info on specials, tactics, force costs, damages and such?
Check MsNil,s master Healer guide from the same sticky. Hers is a great example of a profession guide. I know MLS is simpler than MHealer, but there is definitwely more that can be said here.
Keep up the good work!
unfortunately until states are fixed tactics for MLS are amor break and attack...its that simple...once states are introduced i will definately updte as much as possible....also another problem is FC for specials are based not only on a fixed cost per special but + FC of saber...im not mathematically inclined but i will try to get Base FC for specials excluding a saber
SWGHottie
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:51 am
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Interesting writeup. Good work.
I added you to my Templates and professions Guides sticky thread btw. Do you think you could expand it a little to include info on specials, tactics, force costs, damages and such?
Check MsNil,s master Healer guide from the same sticky. Hers is a great example of a profession guide. I know MLS is simpler than MHealer, but there is definitwely more that can be said here.
Keep up the good work!
Wingweaver
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:20 am
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hey spacemonkey, awsome movie, ive never seen it befor eif its a common movie or one u made. where can i dl it? or save it for my own? i want ot put in on a cd and give it to some friends, i have quicktime just cant figure out how to save it or locate it once its done, im on dialup so opening it up again everytime i want to see it will get old fast.
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