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Thread: FS Boxes = Profession Mastery, Jedi XP should NOT apply to FS boxes
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It has been said that if you are a Jedi currently you will be a publish 9 Jedi. Your current skill boxes will be transfured over into the new system. Your left over skill XP will not. If you are 1000 JediXP from your next box then you dont get credit for it regardless.
Nowhere did they say that the FS skill boxes would equal profession mastery. They said people would be compensated for the professions they have mastered. By this they could mean they are going to award amounts of Jedi experience so that players could achieve those boxes. Possibly the amounts of XP per mastery may not be equal to the current swap over. What if they only awarded 500xp per profession you have mastered. The Force Sensitive boxes are the same xp requirements as regular novice professions. 1000 first tier, 5000 second tier, 10000 third tier and 50k in the final box. If they were alotted 500 Jedi XP per profession mastered they would be a loss during the compensation changes.
As far as a conversion goes it has been shown that if we spend our new skills (current boxes minus 6) carefully we can actually gain a lot of experience in this system. The entire math to the conversion has been done elsewhere. I'll dig up the link later if required.
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i agree 110%. the fs boxes are a means for holo grinders and future questers to obtain a jedi char. weve already done that part. another thing you have to look at is the statement that hologrinders would not have to ruin their chars while doing the quests. charging even 1 skill point per box does the total opposite.
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Completion of the new FS boxes should be granted BEFORE and conversion of Jedi XP or skills from the old system to the new.. current Jedi should not have to pay for the FS boxes twice. Attaining the FS boxes in the new system and holo-grinding in the old are the same thing.. and current Jedi have completed that. Now some may say that the old system granted no benefits while the new system does (hologrind vs FS quests).. then those benefits are our reward for completing the old random unlock system.
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OK, I'll explain it further for those who have not been on TC2 and seen what I'm talking about.
1. Current Jedi had to master professions to unlock. For most it was a horrific experience in "time and effort". From there, we started the Jedi profession and started the even more horrific experience of gaining very hard to obtain Jedi XP under significant pain in total seclusion, blah blah blah.
2. Jedi from Publish 10 and future will do quests for "time and effort" to gain XP to complete Force Sensitive Skill Tree boxes until they have completed 24 of these and then they get to do the Padawan Trials and start working on Jedi Skill Trees.
3. Therefore, OUR "time and effort" is the equivalent end result of the "time and effort" end result of completing 24 FS Skill boxes.
4. When we went into TC2, we had to populate 24 FS Skill Boxes using Jedi XP and skill points before we could populate the Jedi Skill trees. Granted, this test had us using the equivalent XP and Skills that Guardian 4444 will have in their cross over, but it brought out a key concern for all of us:
In the cross-over conversion, they need to ensure that we get added to our current status, the XP and Skill points needed to populate the 24 FS Skill tree boxes. Failing to do that is a severe punishment and setback to us since those should already be fully populated. It also stated in the Archives that current Jedi will find themselves in the new system as if they had just finished the Padawan Trials and can start populating skill trees. We are just not willing to take a chance that they forget to bump us the XP and Skill points to complete the 24 FS Boxes.
Fate11357 wrote:/sign
i agree 110%. the fs boxes are a means for holo grinders and future questers to obtain a jedi char. weve already done that part. another thing you have to look at is the statement that hologrinders would not have to ruin their chars while doing the quests. charging even 1 skill point per box does the total opposite.
Wrong, the hologrinding part is now a set of quests that we still dont know about.
The FS slots are the start of the new jedi grind AFTER unlocking.
Why does everyone have a hard time understanding this?
I agree they shouldnt cost skill points tho.
wyx1 wrote:
Fate11357 wrote:
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i agree 110%. the fs boxes are a means for holo grinders and future questers to obtain a jedi char. weve already done that part. another thing you have to look at is the statement that hologrinders would not have to ruin their chars while doing the quests. charging even 1 skill point per box does the total opposite.
Please go re-read the archives. The FS boxes can be filled out by players looking to become Force Sensitive, but who may or may not choose to take the path to Jedi. The FS boxes are available as progression through the new Quest system is achieved. Upon completing 24 of these, you become eligible to take the Padawan Trials, and start the path of the Jedi.
Therefore, current Jedi should already have these FS boxes completed (as a result of profession grinding in current system), as well as the boxes they have completed as current Jedi.
Wrong, the hologrinding part is now a set of quests that we still dont know about.
The FS slots are the start of the new jedi grind AFTER unlocking.
Why does everyone have a hard time understanding this?
I agree they shouldnt cost skill points tho.
EMC2 wrote:
wyx1 wrote:
Fate11357 wrote:
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i agree 110%. the fs boxes are a means for holo grinders and future questers to obtain a jedi char. weve already done that part. another thing you have to look at is the statement that hologrinders would not have to ruin their chars while doing the quests. charging even 1 skill point per box does the total opposite.
Wrong, the hologrinding part is now a set of quests that we still dont know about.
The FS slots are the start of the new jedi grind AFTER unlocking.
Why does everyone have a hard time understanding this?
I agree they shouldnt cost skill points tho.
Darn Lithium web site! Here goes the correct post:
Please go re-read the archives. The FS boxes can be filled out by players looking to become Force Sensitive, but who may or may not choose to take the path to Jedi. The FS boxes are available as progression through the new Quest system is achieved. Upon completing 24 of these, you become eligible to take the Padawan Trials, and start the path of the Jedi.
Therefore, current Jedi should already have these FS boxes completed (as a result of profession grinding in current system), as well as the boxes they have completed as current Jedi.