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Thread: In the MOVIES...

Elvandar02
Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:22 pm
#1

In the MOVIES Jedi could kill anything in one hit.

In the MOVIES Jedi could use the force to accomplish any task.

In the MOVIES Jedi were nigh-invincible.

In the MOVIES Jedi were revered, respected, admired and envied.



But in the MOVIES, Jedi were rare.


So what's the point of this thread?

Game != Movie.

In the GAME Jedi are nothing more than Swordsman with light-up weapons. And occasionally they get wrecked by a Bounty Hunter.


So don't complain that you're gimped, that the devs hate you, that you'll never be the Jedi Obi-Wan was, that your Post-CU Saber can't cut butter, or that you don't want to fight Bounty Hunters.

If the game was more like the movie, chances are you wouldn't even know what a lightsaber was. Would that make the game a better place? Yeah, it would. We would have dedicated crafters, proper-looking factional armies (Riflemen and Carbineers in armor, backed up by medics and support classes), and most importantly, we would have a unified player-base, and not a pack of grind happy saber jockeys that are too afraid to go near civilization for fear that their precious avatars would be shot at.

Makes me sad for the Developers that they have such little talent that they can't seem to focus on anything except a profession that not only sucks, but is a terrible, TERRIBLE time-consuming grind.

Hrm. Ever think about that for a second?

The Village. Doesn't it seem peculiar that the village has "Phases" that take weeks at a time to change, no matter if you've completed it or not? And god forbid you miss a phase, then you have to wait well over a month for another crack at it. And then, when you finally unlock a skill box, you have to grind night and day, forsaking all but 8 of your friends so you can gather up enough experience to finish a line of a force tree. One down, 6 to go. oh, but wait! One of these lines takes THIRTY (30) times the normal amount of exp to unlock, maybe less if you've saved up your combat exp.

So, you spend maybe 2 months in the village, then you proceed to grind out 30 Professions (Actually, more than that. Each profession takes 4 lines, you need 6).

Finally, you get to become a Jedi. Woah, slow down there, Sparky. You're just an initiate with a terrible saber. You better get to grinding. Huh? NPCs, you say? Looks like the empire's found you. And here comes the bounty hunter.

You die, He is 50K richer now. And what's more, the enitre day you spent grinding today died along with your pixels. better luck tomorrow.

This goes on for another 20 Million Exp while you try to max out your template. The whole time getting annihilated by Bounty Hunters, Who remove a good chunk of your exp every time they thrash you. That only lengthens the amount of time you're gonna be working on this terribly boring profession.

Fast forward 5 months. You're a fully Templated Jedi. You have a saber loaded with Pearls. You don't fear Bounty Hunters anymore, they can't take anything from you.

Time for some fun!

Hey, let's... Uh. Hey, we could... Er.

OH! How about we...

Hey, just what CAN you do as a jedi that you can't as a normal (and more powerful, go figure) Profession?


N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

So way to go. The "Only thing you havn't done in game yet" just cost you almost a year and around $120 of your hard-earned cash, so you could be a profession that can do everything else normal professions can do, excluding wear specialized armor and switch weapon damage types depending upon the situation.

Jedi is a scam, and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
Elvandar02
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:32 pm
#2

No comments, but no flames. Guess I'm doing a good job.



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
Mistwaver
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:47 pm
#3

Oh noes! Teh devs hate me!

I figured I'd bring a little sarcasm in to get the real flamers to start up...



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Terraval
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:48 pm
#4


Wow.. you're actually right. You are ACTUALLY right. Forgive me if I seem sarcastic, but it's true.


We were scammed by SOE. Those absolute morons...


There is no point to becoming a jedi...or even playing this game anymore.


But somebody save me, I don't want to give up cause of the time I put in to unlock. Guess we're stuck here...
abbink
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:52 pm
#5

The need for balance amonst jedi and bh and all professions for that matter is a direct result of the requiremnt of pvp in this game especially for jedi as it is currently. To keep this game fresh and exciting we need un-balance and we need to move away from the pvp requirement. PvP should be for those that enjoy some friendly compitition. as ive said Do we really want this game to become an online version of Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat with a GWC Star Wars twist? Well honestly do we?






Too often players and the devs have a mindset that professions should be balanced with 1 on 1 pvp in mind. This mindset is ruining the game. The benchmark for balance should be determined by the role a profession plays in a group setting. As long as the current mindset continues we will never see uniqueness among the professions, nor will we ever see individuality within a given profession. We will never see the SWG universe expanded as the focus will only ever be balance pass after balance pass after balance pass.


Message Edited by abbink on 07-26-200609:32 AM


Red-Dude
Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:53 pm
#6

so so true i think they shoud destroy jedi all together and give all the jedi a full respec and give them a alota crets and a bunch of special items to shut them up acorce then theyll do nothing but cry and complain acource that is a bit dractic so what about 1-3 NO JEDI SEVERS no fs no ties to jedi whatso ever where people could have proper wars with lasers NO SABERS flying throu the air with med tents in the back and waves a troops martching into battle you know what im talking about and mabey MABEY a select few like the dev are godly jedi and hang out at the jedi temple with tons of npc jedi and "younglings" practly a whole new game where insted of geting new skills u have to buy ammo that kinda stuff make the game almost completly identical the the movies now thatd be a bad a game but sady its not goning to happen just try to picture it in your mind the best dang game ever made it could be made by soe if theyd get of the buts and work alittle



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Elvandar02
Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:02 pm
#7



Terraval wrote:

Wow.. you're actually right. You are ACTUALLY right. Forgive me if I seem sarcastic, but it's true.

We were scammed by SOE. Those absolute morons...

There is no point to becoming a jedi...or even playing this game anymore.
But somebody save me, I don't want to give up cause of the time I put in to unlock. Guess we're stuck here...





I don't blame you not wanting to give up on all the hard work you've done, but that's what they're going for.

They figure that by the time you figure out just what you've been doing, it's too late. You might wanna stop, but that would make the months you've spent useless.

And just in case you DO have the willpoer to quit, here comes an expansion, focused toward Jedi (And hints of a possible FRS). Not just that, but even the small minority who have no Jedi are going to be lured into this expansion with the hundreds of crappy Star Wars Gimmicks they're throwing into this game.

GUYS! HK-47! GUYS!! DASH RENDAR'S SHIP! GUYSS!!!! AND UNDERGROUND BUNKER HOUSE REWARD!

Every time i see a Jedi in game, I shake my head in shame. They're lost now.



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
magneto2
Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:43 pm
#8

i think all these peeps who want a non-jedi server, just didnt put in the time to get one


ive been playing this game for 2 years, and ive always wanted a jedi, which im sure 90% who play this game felt the same






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Elvandar02
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:01 pm
#9



magneto2 wrote:

i think all these peeps who want a non-jedi server, just didnt put in the time to get one

ive been playing this game for 2 years, and ive always wanted a jedi, which im sure 90% who play this game felt the same






But now that you have your Jedi, are you satisfied?



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
Aikes
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:08 pm
#10

Elvandar02 wrote:

Jedi is a scam, and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.






Great post, hope more read it with objectivity.

Another great scam was the EQ2 graft that borked this game but thats another story.

Elvandar02
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:09 pm
#11



Aikes wrote:
Elvandar02 wrote:
Jedi is a scam, and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Great post, hope more read it with objectivity.
Another great scam was the EQ2 graft that borked this game but thats another story.





Thank you.

When I first posted this I expected it to be flamed and trolled quite a bit, it's refreshing to see people who know what I'm talking about.



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
Aikes
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:12 pm
#12

My character is a jedi, and you are on the mark completely.


I miss being a pre-cu BH and I miss being a pre-CU TKM/Doc. This current system sucks and though Jedi is fun I would give it up in a heart beat to play the game I used to enjoy. Pre Combat Downgrade


Elvandar02
Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:16 pm
#13

I also miss being able to hold my own in a fight. Now, if I want to do even least bit of damage, I have to be a Melee Stacker or a Rifleman (With CM)

The worst part of the CU is the dependency on healing. Jedi know it, too.

Ask any Jedi, or even any PvPer, if they have healing. The answer is Yes. If you don't heal, you die, which is a major problem in this game.



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"In peace there is no substitute for ice cream."

Chances are, if you're a jedi, you havn't realized this.
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