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Thread: Force Lighting as a ranged special? Why a dark side power?

RagingDoofus
Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:49 pm
#1




to quote






Jedi = Luke Skywalker



Special:


• Block Blaster Bolts – Block Blaster bolts using a Force powered lightsaber.


• Force Lightning – Call down the Force power of lightning to weaken your opponent's strength during battle.







Jumping the gun a bit on assumptions, since SOE is as usual tight lipped, but the implication (from what I've read)is all 9 new profs will be essentially the same at the end in terms of skills, no diverting branches to set them apart from another user of the same prof. Thus all Jedi will have the Force Lightning power as based on this quote. I suppose I may be in the minority here, but this is in a classic sense a dark side power, and even if not directly "evil" carries the stigma with it. I activly avoided the powers skillset in game, just because it was more offense based in many ways, and I enjoyed playing a defense oriented Jedi, one meant to help others in a group more than anything.


Now granted, I don't HAVE to use it, but it is likely to be the main "ranged" attack a Jedi gets, which is nothing to scoff at with what appears to be the new direction of combat. Thus I ask, why a power like this, over the growing standard, Saber Throw? It's much more neutral, though of course not as flashy. I suppose it too could be in game, simpy not mentioned, but again, we have nothing but the FAQ to go off of.


Not everyone wants to be light side oriented like me either, to which I say excellent, the dark side seems like a neat area to take your toon, but all themore reason for us not to have the same skill in this area.


Opinions? Corrections?


I got nothing better to do for now.

Message Edited by RagingDoofus on 11-03-2005 06:54 PM



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RagingDoofus
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:49 pm
#2




to quote






Jedi = Luke Skywalker



Special:


• Block Blaster Bolts – Block Blaster bolts using a Force powered lightsaber.


• Force Lightning – Call down the Force power of lightning to weaken your opponent's strength during battle.







Jumping the gun a bit on assumptions, since SOE is as usual tight lipped, but the implication (from what I've read)is all 9 new profs will be essentially the same at the end in terms of skills, no diverting branches to set them apart from another user of the same prof. Thus all Jedi will have the Force Lightning power as based on this quote. I suppose I may be in the minority here, but this is in a classic sense a dark side power, and even if not directly "evil" carries the stigma with it. I activly avoided the powers skillset in game, just because it was more offense based in many ways, and I enjoyed playing a defense oriented Jedi, one meant to help others in a group more than anything.


Now granted, I don't HAVE to use it, but it is likely to be the main "ranged" attack a Jedi gets, which is nothing to scoff at with what appears to be the new direction of combat. Thus I ask, why a power like this, over the growing standard, Saber Throw? It's much more neutral, though of course not as flashy. I suppose it too could be in game, simpy not mentioned, but again, we have nothing but the FAQ to go off of.


Not everyone wants to be light side oriented like me either, to which I say excellent, the dark side seems like a neat area to take your toon, but all themore reason for us not to have the same skill in this area.


Opinions? Corrections?


I got nothing better to do for now.

Message Edited by RagingDoofus on 11-03-2005 06:54 PM



Kettemoor - Gorrt - Leader of Pink Squadron
ThRippeR
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:51 pm
#3

I could only see it working for all Jedi in a fashion that it's use leads to a turn to darkness in some way.


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SpaceJawa
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:54 pm
#4

There are no darkside powers, only darkside intent. One of Leia and Han's kids used lightning and they were Light Jedi.
lariel
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:55 pm
#5

I already posted this in the TK forums, but I really think for this new system to work that they need a little bit of variation within the classes to make each character the plays more unique. EQ even has AAs and tradeskills to make a character a little bit different than the last one and that would be what this game needed to. Player and character diversity is part of what made this game great and to forget that and make the system too simplistic (which is what I'm seeing as happening, althoughno one will really be sure until it goes to TC tomorrow) is a serious oversight made by the devs.




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ThRippeR
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:56 pm
#6






SpaceJawa wrote:
There are no darkside powers, only darkside intent. One of Leia and Han's kids used lightning and they were Light Jedi.




/cough (books)




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Fiach
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:56 pm
#7






RagingDoofus wrote:




to quote






Jedi = Luke Skywalker



Special:


• Block Blaster Bolts – Block Blaster bolts using a Force powered lightsaber.


• Force Lightning – Call down the Force power of lightning to weaken your opponent's strength during battle.







Jumping the gun a bit on assumptions, since SOE is as usual tight lipped, but the implication (from what I've read)is all 9 new profs will be essentially the same at the end in terms of skills, no diverting branches to set them apart from another user of the same prof. Thus all Jedi will have the Force Lightning power as based on this quote. I suppose I may be in the minority here, but this is in a classic sense a dark side power, and even if not directly "evil" carries the stigma with it. I activly avoided the powers skillset in game, just because it was more offense based in many ways, and I enjoyed playing a defense oriented Jedi, one meant to help others in a group more than anything.


Now granted, I don't HAVE to use it, but it is likely to be the main "ranged" attack a Jedi gets, which is nothing to scoff at with what appears to be the new direction of combat. Thus I ask, why a power like this, over the growing standard, Saber Throw? It's much more neutral, though of course not as flashy. I suppose it too could be in game, simpy not mentioned, but again, we have nothing but the FAQ to go off of.


Not everyone wants to be light side oriented like me either, to which I say excellent, the dark side seems like a neat area to take your toon, but all themore reason for us not to have the same skill in this area.


Opinions? Corrections?


I got nothing better to do for now.


Message Edited by RagingDoofus on 11-03-2005 06:54 PM





Depends on how you look at it. The KOTOR series didn't consider powers to be inherantly light or dark, it was a question of how you used them that was good or evil. Say a haywire Binary Load-lifter ran out of control and was about to crush a woman and her children, a Jedi uses force lightning to disable the droid. Could that be considered an evil act?


Food for thought.


DocSavag
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:57 pm
#8



ThRippeR wrote:


SpaceJawa wrote:
There are no darkside powers, only darkside intent. One of Leia and Han's kids used lightning and they were Light Jedi.


/cough (books)





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Everitt_Cage
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:58 pm
#9






Fiach wrote:


Could that be considered an evil act?






No, however I have seen it referred to as "Sith lightning" in official sources, such as the ROTS visual dictionary published by LucasBooks. Perhaps there is some technical difference between force lightning and "sith lightning" (such as sith lightning involving some kind of sith teachings and techniques to make it more destructive or deadly)

Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 11-03-2005 09:59 PM

ThRippeR
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 pm
#10

I would say that it could be dangerous to a Jedi regardless of intent based on the very nature of how the Lightning is seemingly developed (film-wise)...through anger. It is unclear whether or not the Powers used by the Dark Jedi could be produced otherwise.




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Jengu-Fet
Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 pm
#11






DocSavag wrote:





ThRippeR wrote:





SpaceJawa wrote:
There are no darkside powers, only darkside intent. One of Leia and Han's kids used lightning and they were Light Jedi.




/cough (books)







/cough MMO





/cough LOL


Maxil
Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:00 pm
#12

remember back to pre-pub 9, was almost the exact same as it is going to be now, all padawans go up the same tree and get the same abilities.. Just once you started knight there was more diversity between light/dark, I forsee (and hope) that's what they are planning to do...



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ThRippeR
Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:00 pm
#13






DocSavag wrote:





ThRippeR wrote:





SpaceJawa wrote:
There are no darkside powers, only darkside intent. One of Leia and Han's kids used lightning and they were Light Jedi.




/cough (books)







/cough MMO




/everything should be based on the films, regardless of how bad it gets fouled up here. Don't lose focus.




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