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Thread: Why are Master Enhancers being marginalized? Mustafar High Level content immune to us!

Tanilith
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:04 pm
#1

What is the point of being a Master Enhancer if most of the high level content, and not just the "boss" type named content is immune to our skills of Suppression, Wave and most importantly Stasis? This is the equivalent of allowing creatures to easily bypass AI as soon as you throw it up, or or be immune to choke (which may also be the case) but to have most of the content immune to ALL 3 CROWD CONTROL skills is the equivelent of taking us out of the game.


Bac, please mention this to the devs. I'd like to actually be able to use the 1 or 2 skillz in my character that were previously working.



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trajen2
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:07 pm
#2






Tanilith wrote:

What is the point of being a Master Enhancer if most of the high level content, and not just the "boss" type named content is immune to our skills of Suppression, Wave and most importantly Stasis? This is the equivalent of allowing creatures to easily bypass AI as soon as you throw it up, or or be immune to choke (which may also be the case) but to have most of the content immune to ALL 3 CROWD CONTROL skills is the equivelent of taking us out of the game.


Bac, please mention this to the devs. I'd like to actually be able to use the 1 or 2 skillz in my character that were previously working.





What are you talking about?


Force Feedback now has a purpose in PvE....

FR3 made collecting Talrus eggs a friggin breeze..

Any boss I have fought has been tough but defeatable...







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lovisa
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:11 pm
#3

a mate found a big thing there cant remember what it was called atm

but it looked like a scorpion and was level 80 with 250k ham

could not root or snare it not even AB it even once

so it is not only ME that have truble there but i get your problem



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trajen2
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:12 pm
#4






lovisa wrote:

a mate found a big thing there cant remember what it was called atm

but it looked like a scorpion and was level 80 with 250k ham

could not root or snare it not even AB it even once

so it is not only ME that have truble there but i get your problem





i would hope that ANY template would be challenged by this . . .


I actually thought my ME skills have come in handy on Mustafar...honestly, I guess i Havent tried to use stasis, wave , or suppression on the them





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Tanilith
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:12 pm
#5


Try reading my post. I said nothing about Force Feedback or FR3. I'm talking about our supposed role as 'Crowd Control'


Almost everything I face is immune to Stasis, Suppression and Wave, and seeing -Immune- float above everything I'm fighting is really starting to annoy me.



Tanilith Wing'Dvan

Master Saber / Master Enhancer / 4040 Healer

Light Jedi Knight - Strength Through Honor



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lovisa
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:15 pm
#6






trajen2 wrote:






lovisa wrote:

a mate found a big thing there cant remember what it was called atm

but it looked like a scorpion and was level 80 with 250k ham

could not root or snare it not even AB it even once

so it is not only ME that have truble there but i get your problem





i would hope that ANY template would be challenged by this . . .


I actually thought my ME skills have come in handy on Mustafar...honestly, I guess i Havent tried to use stasis, wave , or suppression on the them






this pet was not really hard if you spare the force as it took a while to kill and it had very nasty regain


the hard part when you fight this one is to maintain your force throw all the fight and your mind and action if you plan to do some channel (wich is a must i think)





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lajduke
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:17 pm
#7

Ya, CM, Pistoleer, and smuggler forums are talking about this as well.


I saw a post made by either the Smuggler or Pistoleer corr that quoted tiggs from the corr forums. Tiggs said that these changes were made and that they see how adversly they have effected multiple professions, basically making them useless. She then went on to state that at a later date, they are going to patch it so that things higher than lvl 84 only have a *CHANCE* to resist, not a total immunity to it.






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trajen2
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:18 pm
#8






Tanilith wrote:


Try reading my post. I said nothing about Force Feedback or FR3. I'm talking about our supposed role as 'Crowd Control'


Almost everything I face is immune to Stasis, Suppression and Wave, and seeing -Immune- float above everything I'm fighting is really starting to annoy me.





MEs have more skills than the mezzes...


anyway, i think overall, MEs do very well...the terrain negotiaion of FR3 on mustafar is great... that bloody flea and skiff are slooow





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Tanilith
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:19 pm
#9






lajduke wrote:

Ya, CM, Pistoleer, and smuggler forums are talking about this as well.


I saw a post made by either the Smuggler or Pistoleer corr that quoted tiggs from the corr forums. Tiggs said that these changes were made and that they see how adversly they have effected multiple professions, basically making them useless. She then went on to state that at a later date, they are going to patch it so that things higher than lvl 84 only have a *CHANCE* to resist, not a total immunity to it.








well, okay. i suppose. but with the frequency that these skills miss it better be a small *chance* to resist.






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Light Jedi Knight - Strength Through Honor



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lovisa
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:20 pm
#10






lajduke wrote:

Ya, CM, Pistoleer, and smuggler forums are talking about this as well.


I saw a post made by either the Smuggler or Pistoleer corr that quoted tiggs from the corr forums. Tiggs said that these changes were made and that they see how adversly they have effected multiple professions, basically making them useless. She then went on to state that at a later date, they are going to patch it so that things higher than lvl 84 only have a *CHANCE* to resist, not a total immunity to it.








a chance is all i ask for


but as i see it a jedi should have bigger chance then let say a pistoler smuggler as jedi use powers but that is only me


i be happy if it is the same aswell






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Tanilith
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:25 pm
#11






lovisa wrote:





lajduke wrote:

Ya, CM, Pistoleer, and smuggler forums are talking about this as well.


I saw a post made by either the Smuggler or Pistoleer corr that quoted tiggs from the corr forums. Tiggs said that these changes were made and that they see how adversly they have effected multiple professions, basically making them useless. She then went on to state that at a later date, they are going to patch it so that things higher than lvl 84 only have a *CHANCE* to resist, not a total immunity to it.








a chance is all i ask for


but as i see it a jedi should have bigger chance then let say a pistoler smuggler as jedi use powers but that is only me


i be happy if it is the same aswell









seriously. The problem myself and my fighting companion are running into is this:


Say we run into 3 or 4 Burning Lava Fleas (double golds - moderately tough) If we were both defenders we could tank and kill em. But we are not, we are both Enhancers and we have really good communication and have been fighting together for about 2 years now so we stratigically use Stasis and Root / Wave in order to defeat all 4 at the same time. But unfortunately the Lava Fleas are immune to Stasis / Wave / Suppress so bascially we are screwed into a really tough fight.


Now, its not that we can't win, but this seemingly random immunity to our crowd control skillz reduces our characters to MLS with some healing. Which is not the way I have chosen to win fights. Anyway . . yeah.





Tanilith Wing'Dvan

Master Saber / Master Enhancer / 4040 Healer

Light Jedi Knight - Strength Through Honor



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lovisa
Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:42 pm
#12






Tanilith wrote:






lovisa wrote:





lajduke wrote:

Ya, CM, Pistoleer, and smuggler forums are talking about this as well.


I saw a post made by either the Smuggler or Pistoleer corr that quoted tiggs from the corr forums. Tiggs said that these changes were made and that they see how adversly they have effected multiple professions, basically making them useless. She then went on to state that at a later date, they are going to patch it so that things higher than lvl 84 only have a *CHANCE* to resist, not a total immunity to it.








a chance is all i ask for


but as i see it a jedi should have bigger chance then let say a pistoler smuggler as jedi use powers but that is only me


i be happy if it is the same aswell









seriously. The problem myself and my fighting companion are running into is this:


Say we run into 3 or 4 Burning Lava Fleas (double golds - moderately tough) If we were both defenders we could tank and kill em. But we are not, we are both Enhancers and we have really good communication and have been fighting together for about 2 years now so we stratigically use Stasis and Root / Wave in order to defeat all 4 at the same time. But unfortunately the Lava Fleas are immune to Stasis / Wave / Suppress so bascially we are screwed into a really tough fight.


Now, its not that we can't win, but this seemingly random immunity to our crowd control skillz reduces our characters to MLS with some healing. Which is not the way I have chosen to win fights. Anyway . . yeah.








but i am not talking about lava fle they i think is normal critters and should allways get snared/stasis or such i mean high level like the one i talked about before those should be hard to hit with stasis but not impossble



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myjedi
Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:58 pm
#13

roots and snares dont work so people wont kite and kill high lvl npc's with ease






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